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  • delirious
    Addiction started
    • Jun 2004
    • 288

    Fahrenheit 9/11 turns up the heat

    Fahrenheit 9/11 turns up the heat
    ANTONIA ZERBISIAS

    Now that George W. Bush is disappointed to learn that the rah-rah Ronald
    Reagan funeral coverage won't be extended until the November election ?
    or the capture of Osama bin Laden, whichever comes first ? it is time to
    look back at his least Reaganesque moment.

    It happened at 9:05 a.m. on Sept. 11, 2001, when White House Chief of
    Staff Andrew Card, the man who would, a year later, talk of "marketing'' the
    Iraq war, informed Bush that "a second plane has hit the World Trade
    Center."

    Bush just sat there, blinking, listening to second graders stumble through a
    story about pet goats. As he would later tell London's Daily Telegraph: "I'm
    trying to absorb that knowledge ... I'm sitting in the midst of a classroom
    with little kids, listening to a children's story and I realize I'm the
    Commander in Chief and the country has just come under attack."

    Bush, who had never got the memo (so to speak) titled "Bin Laden
    Determined To Attack Inside The U.S.," just! sat! there! realizing that he's
    the man.

    At least Reagan would have said something kindly to the kids before
    jumping into action.

    According to Michael Moore's much-hyped Fahrenheit 9/11, the documentary
    that will hit 1,000 screens in North America this month, what was really
    running through Bush's mind is how to blame Saddam Hussein.

    Which is a stretch, and probably a joke. I think.

    Still, it is a testament to how the mainstream media rallied round the leader
    that none of them have ever connected the dots, at least not in any
    comprehensive way, from that horrible moment all the way to Falluja.


    If you want to see the video of that moment, you have to go to alternative
    Web sites, or see Moore's film. It's the first one-stop info shop for the
    masses who, because the mainstream media haven't the facts together in
    any cohesive or comprehensive manner, may have missed the stories of the
    Bush family connections to Saudis who subsidize terrorists and how members
    of the bin Laden family were flown out of the U.S. while American planes,
    which could have been carrying more hijackers, were diverted to Canada.

    Fahrenheit 9/11, Moore tells Playboy in a lengthy interview this month, is
    "the temperature of hysteria that has allowed the Bush administration to get
    away with a series of unconscionable acts since 9/11."

    Needless to say, Moore has been denounced as a traitor by those who heat
    up the airwaves with their own poison gas attacks on critics of the current
    administration. Among them, former comic Dennis Miller who jokes that he
    likes to "trade" the Abu Ghraib prison photos with his friends and Ann
    Coulter who refers to former President Bill Clinton as a rapist. (For a
    complete catalogue of all their refreshing views, visit mediamatters.org)

    Rush Limbaugh, who is heard over Disney's WABC in New York where, last
    ratings check, the neophyte liberal Air America radio was beating him, says
    that the Mickey Mouse corporation was right to refuse to distribute Moore's
    film because it is so anti-American.

    These people are "patriots." But Moore, who courageously questions the
    administration and the media, well, according to Fox News' Bill O'Reilly,
    deserves death.

    The irony is, they complain about Moore being allowed to inflame partisan
    emotions during an election campaign when these right-wing gasbags never
    stop doing exactly that.

    Which brings us to the Great Pink North where Vancouver's Lions Gate has
    the Fahrenheit 9/11 distribution rights for the U.S. while Alliance Atlantis has
    them for Canada.

    Last week, on the financial editorial page of the National Post, Paul Kedrosky
    got his brow all furrowed over how Lions Gate, which has benefited from
    some $40 million in taxpayer support over the past three years, was helping
    to "topple" the U.S. government.

    (This was before the news that Alliance Atlantis won the domestic rights.)

    Picking up on suggestions that it could be "the first film to get a president
    fired," Kedrosky complained that this could be very bad for "cross-border
    economic ties."

    But he's not for censorship, oh no.

    Neither is Dennis Miller who says "We should fight to preserve a country
    where people such as Michael Moore get to miss the point as badly as he
    misses it. Michael Moore represents everything I detest in a human being."

    Yeah. He's all for dissent too.

    No wonder the Bush boosters are now saying that Reagan deserves a place
    on Mount Rushmore, even though a more fitting memorial would be the
    reformation of Dubya's stem cell research policy so that a cure for
    Alzheimer's may be found.

    The truth is, 50 years from now, when Reagan's many failings will have
    faded from memory, he will be remembered in the history books for the part
    he played in ending the Cold War.

    Bush, thanks to Fahrenheit 9/11, will be recalled as the guy who blinked,
    hesitated ... and lost the war he started.


    [CORRECTION: Bill O'Reilly of Fox News is quoted herein as saying he
    believes Moore "deserves death." In fact, a transcript of O'Reilly's Feb. 2 TV
    show makes it clear that a comment he made to that effect wasn't meant to
    be taken seriously or literally.]


  • imported_admin
    Getting Somewhere
    • Mar 2005
    • 108

    #2
    I'm not a huge fan of mr. moore's but I'm interested to see it none-the-less. should bring out some good points and some not-so-good points.

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    • blr32
      Fresh Peossy
      • Jun 2004
      • 14

      #3
      Agree on what?
      That Bush is a twat or that Moore is a tabloid-style-journalist.

      I've followed Moore's shows for a lot of years now and although his style is entertaining, he still uses exact the same type of hyped-up propeganda as the american government used in the promotion of the Iraq war (just to mention one example) - to me this resembles the same situation as nonsence name-calling the schoolyard.

      Essentially I dont believe that Moore's movie will change alot - it may change a few people's minds, but it will not move alot of votes as the people viewing this movie would just want assurance of what they already know - that Bush is a lying tosser.
      But since american bush-supporters doesn't have ANY regard for France - some special some award coming from Cannes would not do much in convincing the American patriots that Bush is harmful to himself, his country and the world he's living in.

      I guess what I'm trying to say is that - watch farenheit 9/11 but be critical about Moore just as you should be critical about the lies of the American government.

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      • tiddles
        Encryption, Jr.
        • Jun 2004
        • 6861

        #4
        mooreons

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        • acmatos
          Getting warmed up
          • Jun 2004
          • 96

          #5
          Michael Moore is total fucking douche. His movies/books are total propaganda aimed at selling himself. He's bitter about being so fat and ugly.
          Don't blame me, I'm just the messenger.

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          • turban
            Getting Somewhere
            • Jun 2004
            • 127

            #6
            Propaganda everywhere you look. It's quite simple, don't listen to one man - if you want truth, research the facts for yourself.
            I'm looking forward to seeing Moore's documentary - I'm not going to take it as fact though.

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            • superEGO72
              Getting Somewhere
              • Jun 2004
              • 212

              #7
              while moore is many times over the top and way too 'die republicans die', he raises some pretty interesting points that should at least be considered... most of them are crap when viewed as far as he takes them, but still not to be taken lightly..

              as far as bush sitting there? what did the rest of the nation do? rather -- the ones not in NY.. we all sat there stupified.

              now while sitting there wasnt the best idea because it was a public place where someone could have relatively easily taken him out... what do you want him to do? hes not freaking superman.

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              • dohturdima
                Getting Somewhere
                • Jun 2004
                • 193

                #8
                Fuck David Moore and the horse he rode in on. This a-hole never wastes a moment to bash US of A with allegations even its staunchiest enemies burst their bellies laughing at. All that needs to be known about this character is he collects the mega$$$ from his "publications" and publicity stunts, while simultaneously shitting in the very hand that shells out the dough for his garbage. At the very least, he is a fucking hypocrite and inveterate liar, who never wastes a moment thrash the very freedoms that allow him to spew hogwash unimpeded.

                Whew. That felt good! This Politics forum idea better stick 'round!
                Habit is a form of exercise

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                • Northern Exposed
                  Getting Somewhere
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 164

                  #9
                  Originally posted by dohturdima
                  Fuck David Moore and the horse he rode in on. This a-hole never wastes a moment to bash US of A with allegations even its staunchiest enemies burst their bellies laughing at. All that needs to be known about this character is he collects the mega$$$ from his "publications" and publicity stunts, while simultaneously shitting in the very hand that shells out the dough for his garbage. At the very least, he is a fucking hypocrite and inveterate liar, who never wastes a moment thrash the very freedoms that allow him to spew hogwash unimpeded.

                  Whew. That felt good! This Politics forum idea better stick 'round!
                  Who the fuck is David Moore?

                  Are you sure you're ranting about the right person? :wink:
                  I ain't no damn noobie. Bitch.

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                  • mixu
                    Travel Guru Extraordinaire
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 1115

                    #10
                    Hey, leave David Moore alone... he's a great 'character'.

                    Umm, is he in a cartoon or something?
                    Ask me a question...

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                    • Troggers
                      Getting warmed up
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 94

                      #11
                      I doubt it'll have any impact. Moore haters will disregard it anyways and for the people that do enjoy his "documentaries" it'll be like preaching to the choir.

                      I'm gonna see it though and I'm pretty sure it'll be entertaining, but that's all it's gonna be. He might raise some valid points but those will all be nullified by his manipulative approach to the subjects at hand.

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                      • mingus51
                        Getting Somewhere
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 228

                        #12
                        Lets hope he does the true liberal thing and donate all the funds from his movie to helping crack whores beat their kids

                        Nah, he'll probably just pocket it....

                        Isn't that "marketing the war" also???

                        hmmmmm...

                        Money = Dillusion

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                        • devon
                          Addiction started
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 362

                          #13
                          moore is a little out there and he can spin things in a different light but the facts are the facts.

                          moore just has a unique way of telling the story.
                          i really wish the floor would stop moving!

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                          • Galapidate
                            Addiction started
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 366

                            #14
                            Originally posted by dohturdima
                            Fuck David Moore and the horse he rode in on. This a-hole never wastes a moment to bash US of A with allegations even its staunchiest enemies burst their bellies laughing at. All that needs to be known about this character is he collects the mega$$$ from his "publications" and publicity stunts, while simultaneously shitting in the very hand that shells out the dough for his garbage. At the very least, he is a fucking hypocrite and inveterate liar, who never wastes a moment thrash the very freedoms that allow him to spew hogwash unimpeded.

                            Whew. That felt good! This Politics forum idea better stick 'round!
                            1. David Moore?
                            2. He is not trying to bash the USA. He is trying to point out the problems in American society that need fixing (kinda like a muckraker).
                            3. He's got balls to be able to criticize American society the way he does. Show the man some respect.

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                            • Northern Exposed
                              Getting Somewhere
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 164

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Galapidate
                              3. He's got balls to be able to criticize American society the way he does. Show the man some respect.
                              Right on man. Whether you like his views or not, it's this right that makes our country so great.
                              I ain't no damn noobie. Bitch.

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