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    Fresh Peossy
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    a war in the planning for four years !

    A War in the Planning for Four Years
    HOW STUPID DO THEY THINK WE ARE?
    Zbigniew Brzezinski and the CFR Put War Plans In a 1997 Book -

    It Is "A Blueprint for World Dictatorship," Says a Former
    German Defense and NATO Official Who Warned of Global
    Domination in 1984,
    in an Exclusive Interview With FTW
    by
    Michael C. Ruppert

    "THE GRAND CHESSBOARD - American Primacy And It's Geostrategic
    Imperatives," Zbigniew Brzezinski, Basic Books, 1997.
    These are the very first words in the book: "Ever since the
    continents started interacting politically, some five hundred
    years ago, Eurasia has been the center of world power."- p.
    xiii. Eurasia is all of the territory east of Germany and
    Poland, stretching all the way through Russia and China to the
    Pacific Ocean. It includes the Middle East and most of the
    Indian subcontinent. The key to controlling Eurasia, says
    Brzezinski, is controlling the Central Asian Republics. And
    the key to controlling the Central Asian republics is
    Uzbekistan. Thus, it comes as no surprise that Uzbekistan was
    forcefully mentioned by President George W. Bush in his
    address to a joint session of Congress, just days after the
    attacks of September 11, as the very first place that the U.S.
    military would be deployed.
    As FTW has documented in previous stories, major deployments
    of U.S. and British forces had taken place before the attacks.
    And the U.S. Army and the CIA had been active in Uzbekistan
    for several years. There is now evidence that what the world
    is witnessing is a cold and calculated war plan - at least
    four years in the making - and that, from reading Brzezinski's
    own words about Pearl Harbor, the World Trade Center attacks
    were just the trigger needed to set the final conquest in
    motion.
    ----------
    FTW, November 7, 2001, 1200 PST (Revised Jan. 21,2002) -
    There's a quote often attributed to Allen Dulles after it was
    noted that the final 1964 report of the Warren Commission on
    the assassination of JFK contained dramatic inconsistencies.
    Those inconsistencies, in effect, disproved the Commission's
    own final conclusion that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone on
    November 22, 1963. Dulles, a career spy, Wall Street lawyer,
    the CIA director whom JFK had fired after the 1961 Bay of Pigs
    fiasco - and the Warren Commission member who took charge of
    the investigation and final report - is reported to have said,
    "The American people don't read."
    Some Americans do read. So do Europeans and Asians and
    Africans and Latin Americans.
    World events since the attacks of September 11, 2001 have not
    only been predicted, but also planned, orchestrated and - as
    their architects would like to believe - controlled. The
    current Central Asian war is not a response to terrorism, nor
    is it a reaction to Islamic fundamentalism. It is in fact, in
    the words of one of the most powerful men on the planet, the
    beginning of a final conflict before total world domination by
    the United States leads to the dissolution of all national
    governments. This, says Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)
    member and former Carter National Security Advisor, Zbigniew
    Brzezinski, will lead to nation states being incorporated into
    a new world order, controlled solely by economic interests as
    dictated by banks, corporations and ruling elites concerned
    with the maintenance (by manipulation and war) of their power.
    As a means of intimidation for the unenlightened reader who
    happens upon this frightening plan - the plan of the CFR -
    Brzezinski offers the alternative of a world in chaos unless
    the U.S. controls the planet by whatever means are necessary
    and likely to succeed.
    This position is corroborated by Dr. Johannes B. Koeppl, Ph.D.
    a former German defense ministry official and advisor to
    former NATO Secretary General Manfred Werner. On November 6,
    he told FTW, "The interests behind the Bush Administration,
    such as the CFR, The Trilateral Commission - founded by
    Brzezinski for David Rockefeller - and the Bilderberger Group,
    have prepared for and are now moving to implement open world
    dictatorship within the next five years. They are not fighting
    against terrorists. They are fighting against citizens."
    Brzezinski's own words - laid against the current official
    line that the United States is waging a war to end terrorism -
    are self-incriminating. In an ongoing series of articles, FTW
    has consistently established that the U.S. government had
    foreknowledge of the World Trade Center attacks and chose not
    to stop them because it needed to secure public approval for a
    war that is now in progress. It is a war, as described by Vice
    President Dick Cheney, "that may not end in our lifetimes."
    What that means is that it will not end until all armed
    groups, anywhere in the world, which possess the political,
    economic or military ability to resist the imposition of this
    dictatorship, have been destroyed.
    These are the "terrorists" the U.S. now fights in Afghanistan
    and plans to soon fight all over the globe.
    Before exposing Brzezinski (and those he represents) with his
    own words, or hearing more from Dr. Koeppl, it is worthwhile
    to take a look at Brzezinski's background.
    According to his resume Brzezinski, holding a 1953 Ph.D. from
    Harvard, lists the following achievements:
    Counselor, Center for Strategic and International Studies
    Professor of American Foreign Policy, Johns Hopkins University
    National Security Advisor to President Jimmy Carter (1977-81)
    Trustee and founder of the Trilateral Commission
    International advisor of several major US/Global corporations
    Associate of Henry Kissinger
    Under Ronald Reagan - member of NSC-Defense Department
    Commission on Integrated Long-Term Strategy
    Under Ronald Reagan - member of the President's Foreign
    Intelligence Advisory Board
    Past member, Board of Directors, The Council on Foreign
    Relations
    1988 - Co-chairman of the Bush National Security Advisory Task
    Force.
    Brzezinski is also a past attendee and presenter at several
    conferences of the Bilderberger group - a non-partisan
    affiliation of the wealthiest and most powerful families and
    corporations on the planet.
    The Grand Chessboard
    Brzezinski sets the tone for his strategy by describing Russia
    and China as the two most important countries - almost but not
    quite superpowers - whose interests that might threaten the
    U.S. in Central Asia. Of the two, Brzezinski considers Russia
    to be the more serious threat. Both nations border Central
    Asia. In a lesser context he describes the Ukraine,
    Azerbaijan, Iran and Kazakhstan as essential "lesser" nations
    that must be managed by the U.S. as buffers or counterweights
    to Russian and Chinese moves to control the oil, gas and
    minerals of the Central Asian Republics (Turkmenistan,
    Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, and Kyrgyzstan).
    He also notes, quite clearly (p. 53) that any nation that
    might become predominant in Central Asia would directly
    threaten the current U.S. control of oil resources in the
    Persian Gulf. In reading the book it becomes clear why the
    U.S. had a direct motive for the looting of some $300 billion
    in Russian assets during the 1990s, destabilizing Russia's
    currency (199 and ensuring that a weakened Russia would have
    to look westward to Europe for economic and political
    survival, rather than southward to Central Asia. A dependent
    Russia would lack the military, economic and political clout
    to exert influence in the region and this weakening of Russia
    would explain why Russian President Vladimir Putin has been
    such a willing ally of U.S. efforts to date. (See FTW Vol. IV,
    No. 1 - March 31, 2001)
    An examination of selected quotes from "The Grand Chessboard,"
    in the context of current events reveals the darker agenda
    behind military operations that were planned long before
    September 11th, 2001.
    "...The last decade of the twentieth century has witnessed a
    tectonic shift in world affairs. For the first time ever, a
    non-Eurasian power has emerged not only as a key arbiter of
    Eurasian power relations but also as the world's paramount
    power. The defeat and collapse of the Soviet Union was the
    final step in the rapid ascendance of a Western Hemisphere
    power, the United States, as the sole and, indeed, the first
    truly global power... (p. xiii)
    "... But in the meantime, it is imperative that no Eurasian
    challenger emerges, capable of dominating Eurasia and thus of
    also challenging America. The formulation of a comprehensive
    and integrated Eurasian geostrategy is therefore the purpose
    of this book. (p. xiv)
    "The attitude of the American public toward the external
    projection of American power has been much more ambivalent.
    The public supported America's engagement in World War II
    largely because of the shock effect of the Japanese attack on
    Pearl Harbor. (pp 24-5)
    "For America, the chief geopolitical prize is Eurasia... Now a
    non-Eurasian power is preeminent in Eurasia - and America's
    global primacy is directly dependent on how long and how
    effectively its preponderance on the Eurasian continent is
    sustained. (p.30)
    "America's withdrawal from the world or because of the sudden
    emergence of a successful rival - would produce massive
    international instability. It would prompt global anarchy."
    (p. 30)
    "In that context, how America 'manages' Eurasia is critical.
    Eurasia is the globe's largest continent and is geopolitically
    axial. A power that dominates Eurasia would control two of the
    world's three most advanced and economically productive
    regions. A mere glance at the map also suggests that control
    over Eurasia would almost automatically entail Africa's
    subordination, rendering the Western Hemisphere and Oceania
    geopolitically peripheral to the world's central continent.
    About 75 per cent of the world's people live in Eurasia, and
    most of the world's physical wealth is there as well, both in
    its enterprises and underneath its soil. Eurasia accounts for
    60 per cent of the world's GNP and about three-fourths of the
    world's known energy resources." (p.31)
    It is also a fact that America is too democratic at home to be
    autocratic abroad. This limits the use of America's power,
    especially its capacity for military intimidation. Never
    before has a populist democracy attained international
    supremacy. But the pursuit of power is not a goal that
    commands popular passion, except in conditions of a sudden
    threat or challenge to the public's sense of domestic
    well-being. The economic self-denial (that is, defense
    spending) and the human sacrifice (casualties, even among
    professional soldiers) required in the effort are uncongenial
    to democratic instincts. Democracy is inimical to imperial
    mobilization." (p.35)
    "Two basic steps are thus required: first, to identify the
    geostrategically dynamic Eurasian states that have the power
    to cause a potentially important shift in the international
    distribution of power and to decipher the central external
    goals of their respective political elites and the likely
    consequences of their seeking to attain them;... second, to
    formulate specific U.S. policies to offset, co-opt, and/or
    control the above..." (p. 40)
    "...To put it in a terminology that harkens back to the more
    brutal age of ancient empires, the three grand imperatives of
    imperial geostrategy are to prevent collusion and maintain
    security dependence among the vassals, to keep tributaries
    pliant and protected, and to keep the barbarians from coming
    together." (p.40)
    "Henceforth, the United States may have to determine how to
    cope with regional coalitions that seek to push America out of
    Eurasia, thereby threatening America's status as a global
    power." (p.55)
    "Uzbekistan, nationally the most vital and the most populous
    of the central Asian states, represents the major obstacle to
    any renewed Russian control over the region. Its independence
    is critical to the survival of the other Central Asian states,
    and it is the least vulnerable to Russian pressures." (p. 121)
    Referring to an area he calls the "Eurasian Balkans" and a
    1997 map in which he has circled the exact location of the
    current conflict - describing it as the central region of
    pending conflict for world dominance - Brzezinski writes:
    "Moreover, they [the Central Asian Republics] are of
    importance from the standpoint of security and historical
    ambitions to at least three of their most immediate and more
    powerful neighbors, namely Russia, Turkey and Iran, with China
    also signaling an increasing political interest in the region.
    But the Eurasian Balkans are infinitely more important as a
    potential economic prize: an enormous concentration of natural
    gas and oil reserves is located in the region, in addition to
    important minerals, including gold." (p.124) [Emphasis added]
    "The world's energy consumption is bound to vastly increase
    over the next two or three decades. Estimates by the U.S.
    Department of energy anticipate that world demand will rise by
    more than 50 percent between 1993 and 2015, with the most
    significant increase in consumption occurring in the Far East.
    The momentum of Asia's economic development is already
    generating massive pressures for the exploration and
    exploitation of new sources of energy and the Central Asian
    region and the Caspian Sea basin are known to contain reserves
    of natural gas and oil that dwarf those of Kuwait, the Gulf of
    Mexico, or the North Sea." (p.125)
    "Uzbekistan is, in fact, the prime candidate for regional
    leadership in Central Asia." (p.130)
    "Once pipelines to the area have been developed,
    Turkmenistan's truly vast natural gas reserves augur a
    prosperous future for the country's people. (p.132)
    "In fact, an Islamic revival - already abetted from the
    outside not only by Iran but also by Saudi Arabia - is likely
    to become the mobilizing impulse for the increasingly
    pervasive new nationalisms, determined to oppose any
    reintegration under Russian - and hence infidel - control."
    (p. 133).
    "For Pakistan, the primary interest is to gain Geostrategic
    depth through political influence in Afghanistan - and to deny
    to Iran the exercise of such influence in Afghanistan and
    Tajikistan - and to benefit eventually from any pipeline
    construction linking Central Asia with the Arabian Sea."
    (p.139)
    "Turkmenistan... has been actively exploring the construction
    of a new pipeline through Afghanistan and Pakistan to the
    Arabian Sea..." (p.145)
    "It follows that America's primary interest is to help ensure
    that no single power comes to control this geopolitical space
    and that the global community has unhindered financial and
    economic access to it." (p14
    "China's growing economic presence in the region and its
    political stake in the area's independence are also congruent
    with America's interests." (p.149)
    "America is now the only global superpower, and Eurasia is the
    globe's central arena. Hence, what happens to the distribution
    of power on the Eurasian continent will be of decisive
    importance to America's global primacy and to America's
    historical legacy." (p.194)
    "Without sustained and directed American involvement, before
    long the forces of global disorder could come to dominate the
    world scene. And the possibility of such a fragmentation is
    inherent in the geopolitical tensions not only of today's
    Eurasia but of the world more generally." (p.194)
    "With warning signs on the horizon across Europe and Asia, any
    successful American policy must focus on Eurasia as a whole
    and be guided by a Geostrategic design." (p.197)
    "That puts a premium on maneuver and manipulation in order to
    prevent the emergence of a hostile coalition that could
    eventually seek to challenge America's primacy..." (p. 19
    "The most immediate task is to make certain that no state or
    combination of states gains the capacity to expel the United
    States from Eurasia or even to diminish significantly its
    decisive arbitration role." (p. 19
    "In the long run, global politics are bound to become
    increasingly uncongenial to the concentration of hegemonic
    power in the hands of a single state. Hence, America is not
    only the first, as well as the only, truly global superpower,
    but it is also likely to be the very last." (p.209)
    "Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multi-cultural
    society, it may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus
    on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstance of a
    truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat."
    (p. 211)
    The Horror - And Comments From Someone Who Worked With
    Brzezinski
    Brzezinski's book is sublimely arrogant. While singing the
    praises of the IMF and the World Bank, which have economically
    terrorized nations on every continent, and while totally
    ignoring the worldwide terrorist actions of the U.S.
    government that have led to genocide; cluster bombings of
    civilian populations from Kosovo, to Laos, to Iraq, to
    Afghanistan; the development and battlefield use of both
    biological and chemical agents such as Sarin gas; and the
    financial rape of entire cultures, it would leave the reader
    believing that such actions are for the good of mankind.
    While seconded from the German defense ministry to NATO in the
    late 1970s, Dr. Johannes Koeppl traveled to Washington on more
    than one occasion. He also met with Brzezinski in the White
    House on more than one occasion. His other Washington contacts
    included Steve Larabee from the CFR, John J. McCloy, former
    CIA Director, economist Milton Friedman, and officials from
    Carter's Office of Management and Budget. He is the first
    person I have ever interviewed who has made a direct
    presentation at a Bilderberger conference and he has also made
    numerous presentations to sub-groups of the Trilateral
    Commission. That was before he spoke out against them.
    His fall was rapid after he realized that Brzezinski was part
    of a group intending to impose a world dictatorship. "In
    1983/4 I warned of a take-over of world governments being
    orchestrated by these people. There was an obvious plan to
    subvert true democracies and selected leaders were not being
    chosen based upon character but upon their loyalty to an
    economic system run by the elites and dedicated to preserving
    their power.
    "All we have now are pseudo-democracies."
    Koeppl recalls meeting U.S. Congressman Larry McDonald in
    Nuremburg in the early 80s. McDonald, who was then
    contemplating a run for the Presidency, was a severe critic of
    these elites. He was killed in the Russian shootdown of Korean
    Air flight 007 in 1985. Koeppl believes that it might have
    been an assassination. Over the years many writers have made
    these allegations about 007 and the fact that someone with
    Koeppl's credentials believes that an entire plane full of
    passengers would be destroyed to eliminate one man offers a
    chilling opinion of the value placed on human life by the
    powers that be.
    In 1983, Koeppl warned, through Op-Ed pieces published in
    NEWSWEEK and elsewhere, that Brzezinski and the CFR were part
    of an effort to impose a global dictatorship. His fall from
    grace was swift. "It was a criminal society that I was dealing
    with. It was not possible to publish anymore in the so-called
    respected publications. My 30 year career in politics ended.
    "The people of the western world have been trained to be good
    consumers; to focus on money, sports cars, beauty, consumer
    goods. They have not been trained to look for character in
    people. Therefore what we need is education for politicians, a
    form of training that instills in them a higher sense of
    ethics than service to money. There is no training now for
    world leaders. This is a shame because of the responsibility
    that leaders hold to benefit all mankind rather than to
    blindly pursue destructive paths.
    "We also need education for citizens to be more efficient in
    their democracies, in addition to education for politicians
    that will create a new network of elites based upon character
    and social intelligence."
    Koeppl, who wrote his 1989 doctoral thesis on NATO management,
    also authored a 1989 book - largely ignored because of its
    controversial revelations - entitled "The Most Important
    Secrets in the World." He maintains a German language web site
    at www.antaris.com and he can be reached by email at
    jbk@antaris.com.
    As to the present conflict Koeppl expressed the gravest
    concerns, "This is more than a war against terrorism. This is
    a war against the citizens of all countries. The current
    elites are creating so much fear that people don't know how to
    respond. But they must remember. This is a move to implement a
    world dictatorship within the next five years. There may not
    be another chance."
    end
  • Jenks
    I'm kind of a big deal.
    • Jun 2004
    • 10250

    #2
    Re: a war in the planning for four years !

    Cliff's Notes anyone?

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    • rewing3
      I really don't care
      • Jun 2004
      • 5504

      #3
      Re: a war in the planning for four years !

      Wow that is a pretty long post there. But it is all a bunch of shit.
      Common Sense is not Common at all.

      Comment

      • eye-p
        Getting Somewhere
        • May 2005
        • 101

        #4
        Re: a war in the planning for four years !

        Originally posted by Jenks
        Cliff's Notes anyone?
        You bet.

        1. In 1992, Paul Wolfowitz wrote a strategic defense planning paper while working in the Pentagon. It basically said that the US was now an Empire and should (more or less) take over the world (strategically) while their is no other superpower to stop us.

        2. In 1998, PNAC (Project for a New American Century) sends a letter to President Clinton, urging him to invade Iraq, to control oil reserves (among other things). Members of PNAC, and signers of this letter include Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, Donald Rumsfeld, etc...

        3. It is now widely known that and documented that the US was going to invade Iraq long before 9/11. The Bush administration used 9/11 as a pretext for war in Iraq.

        Thats the cliffnotes version. Here are a few resources to check this stuff out.

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        • neoee
          Platinum Poster
          • Jun 2004
          • 1266

          #5
          Re: a war in the planning for four years !

          Maybe I believe conspiracy theories too easily but this information has been coming out more and more everyday, all saying the same thing. Look at the list of PNAC members and who happens to be in power now: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project...erican_Century . Take the following with a grain of salt as its from a conspiracy theorist site but it certianly builds a good case. And something to keep in mind before ruling it 'just another conspiracy theory'- Watergate was also initially a conspiracy theory.

          BTW here's a site which put together a 9/11 timeline using news stories, it dates from 1979 to present day events related to 9/11. They claim to not use slanted sources, and lay out their criteria on the site. http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/t...e_911_timeline


          Wargames Were Cover For the Operational Execution of 9/11

          Alex Jones & Paul Joseph Watson | Updated September 20 2004

          UPDATE: Alex Jones Discusses 9/11 Wargames in April 2004 Video

          For almost three years since 9/11 independent researchers have stockpiled individual smoking guns which prove that the official version of events was not only a lie but operationally impossible.

          However, no single smoking gun has yet been forwarded to explain why air defenses categorically reversed Standard Operating Procedure and failed to respond to hijacked jetliners.

          Until now. More and more individuals are looking at the facts and highlighting exercise drills that took place on the morning of 9/11.

          It is clear that at least five if not six training exercises were in operation in the days leading up to and on the morning of 9/11. This meant that NORAD radar screens showed as many as 22 hijacked airliners at the same time. NORAD had been briefed that this was part of the exercise drill and therefore normal reactive procedure was forestalled and delayed.

          The large numbers of 'blips' on NORAD screens that displayed both real and 'drill' hijacked planes explain why confused press reports emerged hours after the attack stating that up to eight planes had been hijacked. Click here for that article.

          The drill scenario also explains a comment made by air traffic control personnel which was featured in a July 2004 BBC television report. Click here for that video clip and article. The controller is told that a hijacked airliner is heading for New York and responds by saying, "is this real world or an exercise?"

          Alex Jones was one of the first to highlight the wargames in his documentary film 'Masters of Terror', which was released in August 2002. Click here to watch a video clip. Alex explains why the Associated Press later had to admit the fact that the CIA were running drills of crashing planes into buildings on the morning of 9/11.

          What were the drills called and what was their nature?

          1) OPERATION NORTHERN VIGILANCE: This was planned months in advance of 9/11 and ensured that on the morning of 9/11, jet fighters were removed from patrolling the US east coast and sent to Alaska and Canada, therefore reducing the amount of fighter planes available to protect the east coast.

          2) BIOWARFARE EXERCISE TRIPOD II: Alex Jones first reported on this back in May when Rudolph Giuliani let the details of it slip in his testimony to the 9/11 Commission. FEMA arrived in New York on September 10th to set up a command post located at Pier 29 under the auspices of a 'biowarfare exercise scheduled for September 12. This explains why Tom Kenney of FEMA's National Urban Search and Rescue Team, told Dan Rather of CBS News that FEMA had arrived in New York on the night of September 10th. This was originally dismissed as a slip of the tongue. Giuliani was to use this post as a command post on 9/11 after he evacuated WTC Building 7. As we reported back in January, Giuliani knew when to leave WTC 7 because he got advanced warning that the Trade Towers were about to collapse. "We were operating out of there when we were told that the World Trade Center was gonna collapse," Rudolph Giuliani told Peter Jennings of ABC News. How did Giuliani know the towers were about to collapse when no steel building in history had previously collapsed from fire damage?

          3) OPERATION VIGILANT GUARDIAN: This exercise simulated hijacked planes in the north eastern sector and started to coincide with 9/11. Lt. Col. Dawne Deskins, NORAD unit's airborne control and warning officer, was overseeing the exercise. At 8:40am she took a call from Boston Center which said it had a hijacked airliner. Her first words, as quoted by Newhouse News Service were, "It must be part of the exercise." This is another example of how the numerous drills on the morning of 9/11 deliberately distracted NORAD so that the real hijacked planes couldn't be intercepted in time.

          4) OPERATION NORTHERN GUARDIAN: The details of this exercise are still scant but it is considered to be part of Vigilant Guardian, relating to simulating hijacked planes in the north eastern sector.

          5) OPERATION VIGILANT WARRIOR: This was referenced in Richard Clarke's book 'Against All Enemies'. It is thought to have been the 'attack' component of the Vigilant Guardian exercise.

          Another example of how air defenses were purposefully kept preoccupied so they couldn't protect New York was reported by this website in December of 2003. The Air National Guard's 177th Fighter Wing, based at Atlantic City International Airport in Pomona, were just eight minutes away from New York and could have intercepted both Flight 11 and Flight 175.

          Under NORAD procedures that date to the Cold War, two F-16 fighters from the 177th were parked around the clock on the Atlantic City runway. Pilots waited in a nearby building, ready to scramble.

          But on the morning of 9/11, the F-16's were performing bombing runs over an empty stretch of the Pine Barrens near Atlantic City after being decommissioned from their usual role of protecting the skies of the east coast.

          It was only after both trade towers were hit that the two F-16s landed and were refitted with air-to-air missiles, then sent aloft.

          Now that we have established how NORAD were confused, delayed and distracted by the numerous wargames, the next question to ask is who if anyone was aware of which planes were 'real world' and which planes were 'exercise'? The answer to this question will provide us with the name of the individual who ran the operatonal execution of the 9/11 attack.

          Dick Cheney.

          Cheney was initially taken by the secret service to an underground bunker in the White House called the Presidential Emergency Operations Center.

          From there, according to CNN, Cheney directed the US government's response to the unfolding attack.

          Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta was in the Presidential Emergency Operating Center with Vice President Cheney as Flight 77 approached Washington, D.C. On May 23, 2003 in front of the 9/11 Commission, Secretary Mineta testified:

          "During the time that the airplane was coming in to the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President, "The plane is 50 miles out." "The plane is 30 miles out." And when it got down to "the plane is 10 miles out," the young man also said to the Vice President, "Do the orders still stand?" And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said, "Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?"

          As the plane in question hit the Pentagon, what else can we conclude but that the 'order' was not to shoot down the aircraft and to let it find its target.

          Mineta stated that he did not know what the 'order' was because he wasn't there when it was made.

          After the Pentagon was hit, Cheney was transfered to another bunker in what the Philadelphia Daily News describes as 'the underground Pentagon'.

          Site R, a highly secure complex of buildings inside Raven Rock Mountain near Blue Ridge Summit, Pa., close to the Maryland-Pennsylvania state line and about seven miles north of Camp David, is a 53-year-old facility conceived at the start of the Cold War as an alternate command center in the event of nuclear war or an attack on Washington.

          The bunker is built into a mountain hillside and is virtually camouflaged to the naked eye. The location betrays itself by the vast gaggle of satellites, microwave towers and antennae that festoon the perimeter. Inside the facility there are computer filled caverns and communication and tracking technology that would put a James Bond movie to shame.

          The entire facility is guarded by heavily armed military police.

          Within hours of 9/11 unfolding, five choppers had landed on the facility's helipad and top officials such as Paul Wolfowitz were ushered in to join Cheney in the command bunker.

          Site R - also known as Raven Rock or the Alternate Joint Communications Center is from where vice-President Dick Cheney ran the aftermath of the 9/11 attack. Cheney's command superceded the orders of the Pentagon, the FAA or the White House. He is the number one suspect in the murder of nearly 3,000 innocent people.

          In May of 2001, by presidential order, Cheney was handed direct control of all wargame and drill operations. This meant he was solely in charge of the overlapping NORAD drills and wargames on the morning of 9/11, that prevented Standard Operating Procedure from being implemented, and any of the hijacked planes being intercepted.

          The smoking guns of 9/11 are no longer disparate jigsaw pieces that serve to just raise more questions than they answer. We now have a coherent and plausible explanation of how the events unfolded, why there was no air defense response, and a prime suspect as to who executed these actions. The facts fit this version of events.

          The 9/11 truth movement has just taken a giant leap towards dismantling the lies of September 11and finally offering justice for those who lost their lives on that terrible day.

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          "They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security." -Benjamin Franklin

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          • thesightless
            Someone will marry me. Hell Yeah!
            • Jun 2004
            • 13567

            #6
            Re: a war in the planning for four years !

            why do i not belive a word of that article.
            seriously doubt that Dick Cheney was responsible.
            i bet the Witches of Salem were really witches if i ally myself with anything that moron wrote about
            your life is an occasion, rise to it.

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            • eye-p
              Getting Somewhere
              • May 2005
              • 101

              #7
              Re: a war in the planning for four years !

              Gravity is just a theory. Does that make it untrue?

              These so called "conspiracy theories" about PNAC and 9/11 are not from the Drudge report, or some other gossip site. In fact, all of the information about how and why we are where we are is public domain, usually in government documents.

              The only question is whether the "liberal media" is going to report on it or not. After all, there are so many important things happening right now- Michael Jackson, Run-a-way bride, Terry Schiavo, etc...

              Anybody else curious as to how we just cant seem to catch Bin-Laden? Its been almost 4 years now.
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              • neoee
                Platinum Poster
                • Jun 2004
                • 1266

                #8
                Re: a war in the planning for four years !

                Originally posted by thesightless
                why do i not belive a word of that article.
                seriously doubt that Dick Cheney was responsible.
                i bet the Witches of Salem were really witches if i ally myself with anything that moron wrote about
                One of my ex-military co-workers I sent this article said the same thing, saying things like "NORAD wouldn't do that", so I did a quick search and found the operation ON NORAD's OWN SITE. The operations listed in the article are real and documentated. The only thing you can ignore is the speculation, since it is just that. PNAC is real and on their own site still lists their objectives. Members and founders (Cheney, Rumsfeld) of PNAC are in high ranking positions in our government.

                Here's a link to a link to an open letter from PNAC to Clinton, from their own site from 1998: http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm . It states "to protect our vital interests in the Gulf" It even outright states oil.

                The statement behind closed doors about the plane being x minutes out, is testimony from the 9/11 comission hearings. Speculation aside, what part can't you believe?

                Maybe you should head over to cooperativeresearch.org and see the story their timeline paints. No speculaton there just factual timeline events as reported by news sources. There is just way too many coincedences for them to be just that.
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                • face
                  Getting Somewhere
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 179

                  #9
                  Re: a war in the planning for four years !

                  the sad part is that this is all too late.

                  two words: fait accompli.

                  and, to their advantage, the big wigs in charge knew this and capitalized on it. most americans don't question authority, they believe the news--if they even read it. now the damage is done; the effects are nearly irreversible.

                  propaganda is key. never underestimate the stupidity of the general public.

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                  • polar
                    Fresh Peossy
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 11

                    #10
                    Re: a war in the planning for four years !

                    well said....
                    but that doesn't mean we should stop talking about this to make people aware.

                    it's just amazing....most people, at this point, acknowledge that they were lied to....but are too laxy or preoccupied with tom cruise to actually do something about it.

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                    • thesightless
                      Someone will marry me. Hell Yeah!
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 13567

                      #11
                      Re: a war in the planning for four years !

                      Originally posted by face
                      propaganda is key. never underestimate the stupidity of the general public.
                      evidenced by will smith movies actually doing well.
                      your life is an occasion, rise to it.

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                      • eye-p
                        Getting Somewhere
                        • May 2005
                        • 101

                        #12
                        Re: a war in the planning for four years !

                        *bump*
                        Peak Oil

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                        • mixu
                          Travel Guru Extraordinaire
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 1115

                          #13
                          Re: a war in the planning for four years !

                          Well-known neo-con philosophy... what's new?
                          Ask me a question...

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                          • Yao
                            DUDERZ get a life!!!
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 8167

                            #14
                            Re: a war in the planning for four years !

                            I'll be in the underground resistance movement if anybody is looking for me...

                            I don't really believe all I hear, but I am very confident that the PNAC group is indeed pushing an agenda which is meant to secure the US's geostrategical interests in a very agressive way. It would not surprise me if the 9/11 attacks were part of it, but if they weren't they sure have been put to good use by those 'hawks'.

                            And Face, the general public is indeed stupid. Rule #1 in the handbook of a politician...

                            I wish I could leave this godforsaken planet and go live somewhere else with a group of people likewise-minded, but since that is not a real option, I'll settle for leaving my shitty ass-licking country, travelling the globe, helping some people making a better life for themselves and get fucking rich in the meantime so NO-ONE will tell me that to do. I wanna be independent and be able to shit on anyone trying to tell me what to do. Not sure if it will happen but the prospects are still reasonably good...

                            [edit]

                            Taken from one of the links Robprunzit provided on the China-Russia tag teaming:

                            'Hegemony'

                            Since NATO's war in the Balkans, and more so since 9/11, Russia and China have frequently spoken against U.S. "hegemony," most recently when the countries' leaders in a joint declaration last month criticized any attempt to "monopolize and dominate international affairs."

                            "Politically, [the exercise] highlights a closer relationship between China and Russia, two great powers who are not happy with U.S. hegemony," Yang said.

                            "Militarily, we are going to see more cooperation between a former superpower and a rising power."

                            Yang said a direct consequence was being seen in the growth of Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), a grouping of Russia, China and four Central Asian nations. At a recent summit, it called on the U.S. to set a timetable for withdrawing its troops from Central Asia, and SCO member Uzbekistan has since given the U.S. notice to vacate a strategic airbase there.

                            Shearman believes the wargames are intended to send a message to the U.S. that "there are other alternatives out there," particularly given the unease about the presence of U.S. forces close to Russian and Chinese territory and interests in Central Asia.

                            Since the Soviet Union's collapse, he said, Russia has been "looking for a new role in the world."

                            "If you look at the discourse, both in Moscow and Beijing, they both share a similar anti-hegemony [position]. They talk about the balance of power, they're concerned about the quantity and the use of American power in the post-1989, post-9/11 period."

                            Shearman recalled that former Russian prime and foreign minister Yevgeny Primakov during the 1990s promoted the notion of a Russia-China-India "strategic triangle."

                            "Nothing happened at the time, but it demonstrated Russian and Chinese concern about the unipolar nature of the international system."
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                            • picklemonkey
                              Double hoodie beer monster
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 15373

                              #15
                              As FTW has documented in previous stories, major deployments
                              of U.S. and British forces had taken place before the attacks
                              With the British? Good luck on that one

                              http://www.unoriginal.co.uk/nuvideos...L.CO.UK%20.wmv

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