Chrysler Shutting Down All Plants

[ddr]

Re: Chrysler Shutting Down All Plants

Lets put this propaganda into perspective...

I worked for Chrysler LLC for 3 years and finished with them in April of this year.

Chrysler comes out and says all of there plants are shutting down for 1 month... every single December every plant shuts down for 2 weeks for Christmas break.

Last year (2007) at this same time they shut down almost every plant for at least 3-6 weeks in Nov / Dec / Jan besides the 2 week Christmas holidays, some plants were shut down for almost 2 months of this 3 month period. All because they dont have the demand for the amount of vehicles these plants are producing, they have to cut back.

When these plants are going at full throttle vehicles are forced down dealership's throats. It is insane the amount of day supply that sits on dealership lots due to over production at certain times.

I think this is just a way for Chrysler to cry for some of the bail out money. The fact is they have these very technologically advanced plants that can produce at a very efficient rate when at full production. Too efficiently when basing it against the actual need for there vehicles.

People not having the ability to qualify for financing is the core of the problem today.

Cheers

thats pretty much what a quoted above but noone seemed to take notice.

adding on a week or two is just to get news headlines and put more pressure on government to come and save the day... fuckin lame imo.

bankruptsy is not the end of the world people, alot of people are failing to realize this.

i drive by dealerships every day and see cars that never move from the lot in years. if they were smart they would quit overproducing. i just dont understand why big business does not understand the whole supply-demand thing... and i thought it was common knowledge =\

[Erik Mitchell]

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Can I have some bailout moneys too?

[runningman]

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They just got approved for $17 Billion. Michiganders can breath a little sigh of relief.

[toasty]

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Well, Chrysler may be getting a bailout, but my local Chrysler dealership -- the one I just bought my Jeep from a few weeks back -- was unceremoniously closed on Monday. Guess I can kiss those free oil changes (from the dealership, not Chrysler) goodbye.

In all seriousness, that really blows. I've bought a couple of Jeeps from them and have always had everything done there, and I've gotten to know some of the folks there over the years. What a kick in the nuts for them the week before Xmas. I know that it sucks for them no matter when it happens, but it does take on a special significance when you're supposed to be in celebration mode.

[Miroslav]

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unblievable! Of the top 3 auto makers, they are the only Privately held company. The hedge fund that holds the majority stake is loaded with cash. Why should we bail them out when they have pleanty of cash in their coffers?!?

A very good question to ask. And it has been asked by lawmakers. Here is what Cerberus Capital has to say:

http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2008/12/17/why-cerberus-wont-put-more-money-into-chrysler/

I guess like many other hedge funds and private equity firms, Cerberus has had a very bad 2008 and lost a ton of money. They also own half of GMAC, which is trying to get in on the $700B bank bailout in order to avoid bankruptcy. I personally agree that they should be scrutinized to make sure they are bearing as much of the burden as they can and not just pass the buck on to taxpayers who didn't sign up for the risk or reward...but it's a complicated financial and political negotiation, I guess. And perhaps Cerberus will lose so much money that they won't be able to keep the company afloat themselves. In which case, I think they should be looking to merge Chrysler with another auto manufacturer...which I hear they are again (with GM). That will again result in layoffs, but there is no way around those. The only question is the speed at which those layoffs occur - we can't handle too much at once right now.

[timchalj]

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unblievable! Of the top 3 auto makers, they are the only Privately held company. The hedge fund that holds the majority stake is loaded with cash. Why should we bail them out when they have pleanty of cash in their coffers?!?

[runningman]

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Sovs can you blame them?? If I knew the government was giving away free Trillions to banks wouldn't you want your piece of the pie? Sure this is all hype right now but a few months down the road it will be more serious.

[Erik Mitchell]

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^ Thanks for the post. I'm a little curious why they don't just downsize a bit and work consistently throughout the year?

Looks like they're only suspending production for a month for now... No reason to even make the news imo. Oh right, they want bailout moneys

[Platinum]

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Lets put this propaganda into perspective...

I worked for Chrysler LLC for 3 years and finished with them in April of this year.

Chrysler comes out and says all of there plants are shutting down for 1 month... every single December every plant shuts down for 2 weeks for Christmas break.

Last year (2007) at this same time they shut down almost every plant for at least 3-6 weeks in Nov / Dec / Jan besides the 2 week Christmas holidays, some plants were shut down for almost 2 months of this 3 month period. All because they dont have the demand for the amount of vehicles these plants are producing, they have to cut back.

When these plants are going at full throttle vehicles are forced down dealership's throats. It is insane the amount of day supply that sits on dealership lots due to over production at certain times.

I think this is just a way for Chrysler to cry for some of the bail out money. The fact is they have these very technologically advanced plants that can produce at a very efficient rate when at full production. Too efficiently when basing it against the actual need for there vehicles.

People not having the ability to qualify for financing is the core of the problem today.

Cheers

[toasty]

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They'll be around. As ddr pointed out, they're basically just extending holiday break. Hell, we're doing the same thing and we make jets. Back during the last recession, my company did a seven-week furlough for everyone. They'll be around because they will be bailed out by the government.

As a Jeep guy, I guess the other good news is that the Jeep brand happens to be one bright spot for Chrysler, so I hope/suspect that if there was some sort of reorganization, they'd find a way to salvage it.

[Miroslav]

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but it makes you wonder...giving them the minimal asking right now would potentially delay the inevitable based on the sqwaking of how much they burn through the cash...

Well, they will definitely have to slim down production scope and they will probably end up merging with another auto company to survive long term.

[FM]

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but it makes you wonder...giving them the minimal asking right now would potentially delay the inevitable based on the sqwaking of how much they burn through the cash...

[Miroslav]

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the government already said that one way or another they will step in and save them. even if Congress doesn't, they will just do it through the Treasury's expanded powers.

[FM]

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it's like I have a sense that this will get averted somehow...maybe not completely, but it will...

...yet the historic, unexplainable collapses and ramifications are just still about waiting to happen...

[Miroslav]

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http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...22w&refer=home

Jaysus

Starting to rethink that new Jeep purchase. Hope there's a company around to do warranty service if anything goes wrong...

They'll be around. As ddr pointed out, they're basically just extending holiday break. Hell, we're doing the same thing and we make jets. Back during the last recession, my company did a seven-week furlough for everyone. They'll be around because they will be bailed out by the government.

If the big three are set to fail then I am sure we are on our way to a systemic crisis.

I would argue that whether they fail or not (which they won't), we are already well along in a systemic crisis already.