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The food industry is really fucked up , almost everything DERIVES from corn ... trust me, corn is evil peeps
That said I drink the blood of young fresh oracles ... I think its time for me to move to romania and become a gypsy vampire, I hear the calling... next five posts will get free card readings and a Saban Bajramovic CD
And I could ask you the same .. there is no concrete evidence to support both claims. But i think that protein/amino acids were essential to brain development, and I don't think we were getting it from quinoa or soy beans..
There may not be concrete evidence on the basis of evolution, but there is most certainly concrete evidence that the modern day human doesn't need meat for development/life/etc.
Interesting stuff from Hawks, I'm not saying we're carnivors or vegetarians, (more realistically we're ABLE to be mixed feeders) - im arguing that our bodoies are better equipped and thrive eating plants vs. meats, and this notion that a so many people believe that humans need meat for evolution/survivial/born to eat meat, etc is silly and actually dangerous.
We can definitely get all the proteins and amono acids from plants and not meats. I do so on a weekly basis, and train heavily 5 days a week. Protein is protein, amino acids are amino acids- where they come from doesn't necessarily matter. What does matter 1. our bodies ability to extract these nutrients from the source, and 2. the excess proteins, sat fats, bad cholesterol etc in meats that our bodies have difficulty with which doesn't exist in a plant based diet. It's not an anomoly that vegetarians have an almost half as much of a chance of death from heart disease, kidney disease, prostate and colon cancer, diabietes than meat eaters do.
I could write on this for days, as i've just spent the last 4 months buried in fitness and nutrition books, but i'm likely not solving any of humanity's dietary issues rambling mercuyserver, so i'll save the time. lol. It's frustrating to me that the commercial food industry has brainwashed so many Americans into believing what is beneficial for their products, and even more frustrating that our government encourages it to happen. Don't even get me started on milk.
I could pull up study after study on nutrition that i've read, but a simple google search will do you the same if you're so inclined on meat vs. plant based diet.
That said, it's friday night, and i'm probably picking up a local grassfed hanger steak on my way home to go on the grill. It's been a couple of weeks, and i'm drooling to have one with a nice bottle of wine.
I'm not advocating being a strict vegetarian, and i'm definitely not rallying with the fucking overboard PETA people, im just saying eat less goddamn meat, it's killing you.
Last edited by Jenks; January 20, 2012, 07:00:34 PM.
Sigh... no it isn't. I'd like to see you expand on this though: "meat is an essential part of our evolution as a species," with, ya know, facts and science and stuff. Kthx.
Prof. John Hawks has a really cool lectures series on the subject,called Rise Of Humans. I uploaded the first 5 episodes of the series in a zip file for you. If you have the time, listen to episodes:
Brain Structure Versus Brain Size and also The Dietary Hypothesis ...
MediaFire is a simple to use free service that lets you put all your photos, documents, music, and video in a single place so you can access them anywhere and share them everywhere.
And I could ask you the same .. there is no concrete evidence to support both claims. But i think that protein/amino acids were essential to brain development, and I don't think we were getting it from quinoa or soy beans..
here is how all the files should look like, when unzipped.. if you are interested in the rest, let me know and I will upload them as well
And .. okay, i will say it, without meet, we won't even be able to talk about all of this right now. Its an essential part of our evolution as a species
Sigh... no it isn't. I'd like to see you expand on this though: "meat is an essential part of our evolution as a species," with, ya know, facts and science and stuff. Kthx.
I think the problem comes from our planet's population growth, we just passed the 7 billion mark: http://www.worldometers.info/
How is the food industry supposed to keep up with demand ? Its easy to say "they don't care, and they treat the animals bad" but then again, none of the people saying that, have any ideas on how to provide meet to the growing demand, and at the same time, treat the animals better and so on. I know, its all profit based and that changes things, but.. a lot of other industries are based on the same general principle.
I had a steak last night, and it was amazing.. it probably happens once a month, but I do enjoy it.
And .. okay, i will say it, without meet, we won't even be able to talk about all of this right now. Its an essential part of our evolution as a species
If people could see the way these animals are treated they might feel morally compelled to make changes in their diets but alas, people love to live in blissful ignorance.
i recommend reading more about our human dietary history. remind me again when humans were vegan?
i recommend practicing some reading comprehension im not arguing that humans were vegans, and i never said we were vegans. i'm saying we're not "born to be carnovores" and our bodies are designed to digest a plant based diet, not a meat based one. Anthropology/Science > Tasty Rib Eye.
^Love the smell of wood and charcoal so thats my personal preference.
^^ + 1. If you're not drunk enough from the ongoing party that you can troop out a grill on coal, there's nothing that beats it. Meaty-terian to the CORE.
13 bucks per duck? Damn. I paid 8 for 8 oz of duck fat. how much fat did you end up with?
Also, is it your belief that store-bought duck fat is no good? or is it just that it's more fun to spend the time doing it the old-timey way (which i AM into doing btw.)
Store bought is fine, it's just hella expensive, especially when you can do it yourself, end up with about 2 cups of duck fat, plus two duck breasts, two duck leg quarters, wings, pieces, cracklins etc...all for $13.
I can understand that the majority of people don't want to give up eating animals but most of you would have to admit that it's gotten to the point where it's gluttonous and wasteful. Our factory farming practices are horrid and shameful. If more people would follow the rule of a vegetarian diet during the week and animals on the weekend it would make a massive difference to our farming practices, enviroment and health. If people could see the way these animals are treated they might feel morally compelled to make changes in their diets but alas, people love to live in blissful ignorance.
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