Carnivore, Pescatarian, Vegetarian or Vegan?

[nick007]

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^Love the smell of wood and charcoal so thats my personal preference. Got mates who swear by gas tho

[88Mariner]

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which is better? gas grill or charcoal? I dig the gas simply because it takes two seconds to fire up. anyone purposefully not use a gas grill?

[88Mariner]

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http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/low-carb-diets/nutrition-and-health-in-agriculturalists-and-hunter-gatherers/

I can help brah. Really. I will break this anti-meat fad that's been spreading...

[floridaorange]

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the missus and I bought this bad boy over christmas for ourselves - South Africans love to braai (barbeque) so its meat all the way for me

Perfect for veggie kabobs and shrimp skewers. Throw on some wild alaskan salmon or red snapper, seasoning and lemon... perfection

[nick007]

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the missus and I bought this bad boy over christmas for ourselves - South Africans love to braai (barbeque) so its meat all the way for me

[tiddles]

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paleo, bitchez.

noice, i'm planning on giving that a 2-month test run starting in a week or so. i eat mostly paleo-ish anyway, it's mostly just cutting the grains that i've gotta do.

[Illuminate]

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i recommend reading more about our human dietary history. remind me again when humans were vegan? when we were all apes flinging shit at each other in the jungles of pangea?

[simonr]

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On offer at £2.50 a tin over xmas .. great for roast potatoes.

[88Mariner]

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Do not buy duck fat. Buy a duck.

There is a farmers market a couple of miles from our house that sells whole fresh ducks on the weekends. $13 per duck. You do the butchering, it's fun, and you should know how to do that anyway. If you don't know how to butcher a duck, youtube can probably tell you.

Once you've removed all the good stuff (breasts, leg, etc) what's left is where you're getting your fat. Start trimming the carcass, all the skin and fat, chopping everything up into small bite size pieces. Throw those bits into an iron skillet or a heavy pot with a little water, prob 1/2 cup per duck, and cook it over medium heat for about an hour. What's left is two amazing things: 1. a shitload of clear heavenly liquid- aka Duck Fat. 2. Cracklins! Drain the fat (might want to run it through a light strainer) into a jar and put it in the fridge. Put all the cracklins on a paper towel and pat them dry. Open a can of beer and start shoving those cracklins in your face and wash them down with beer. I prefer to do this with no pants on. It's amazing. Crispy, salty, duck skin/fat chips and beer. mmmmmm.

That is the cheapest and most fun way to get yourself some duck fat... plus you get all the duck meat to cook later. Med rare pan seared duck breast is awesome. for $13 bucks, you get a several amazing meals providing you know how to prepare duck leg, duck breast, you get a jar of fat that'll last you a long time, and you get the cracklin snacks that you drool over with beer when you're done. It's an amazing couple of hours.

Done and done. I didn't get too many cracklins from rendering the beef though, but ah well.

13 bucks per duck? Damn. I paid 8 for 8 oz of duck fat. how much fat did you end up with?

Also, is it your belief that store-bought duck fat is no good? or is it just that it's more fun to spend the time doing it the old-timey way (which i AM into doing btw.)

[88Mariner]

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lol. that doesn't make any sense. also, we've been on the planet for hundreds of thousands of years and only in the last hundred or so we have drastically increased our meat consumption. The commercialized meat industry has you hood-winked.

here's an example- compare the saliva of carnivores vs. herbivores. flesh eating animals have acidic saliva which breaks down meat, humans have alkaline saliva, which does not break down meat, but does break down plants, like herbivores do. Meat can sit in the intestinal walls of humans for weeks without being broken down because our bodies just aren't as equipped to deal with meat like we able to process plant based food. It's science. Set aside for a momemt your love, and mine, of a medium rare rib eye. Mmmmm, tasty.... But the benefits of that rib-eye stop after is passes over our taste buds and we enjoy the flavor of it. After that meat passes through our mouth down the digestive track it's a struggle for our body to break it down and use it for energy until we eventually expunge what's left of that ribeye out of our anus. lol. I'm willing to have the discussion with you, but you can't just say "i don't buy it" without giving me some science to back up your argument that we're born to be carivores...it's probably going to be difficult...because there isn't any.

i recommend reading more about our human dietary history. remind me again when humans were vegan? when we were all apes flinging shit at each other in the jungles of pangea?

[Jenks]

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I just don't buy it. Isnt there the argument that although it took us hundreds of years to become meat eaters, that doesnt mean that we were meant to be vegeterian.

lol. that doesn't make any sense. also, we've been on the planet for hundreds of thousands of years and only in the last hundred or so we have drastically increased our meat consumption. The commercialized meat industry has you hood-winked.

here's an example- compare the saliva of carnivores vs. herbivores. flesh eating animals have acidic saliva which breaks down meat, humans have alkaline saliva, which does not break down meat, but does break down plants, like herbivores do. Meat can sit in the intestinal walls of humans for weeks without being broken down because our bodies just aren't as equipped to deal with meat like we able to process plant based food. It's science. Set aside for a momemt your love, and mine, of a medium rare rib eye. Mmmmm, tasty.... But the benefits of that rib-eye stop after is passes over our taste buds and we enjoy the flavor of it. After that meat passes through our mouth down the digestive track it's a struggle for our body to break it down and use it for energy until we eventually expunge what's left of that ribeye out of our anus. lol. I'm willing to have the discussion with you, but you can't just say "i don't buy it" without giving me some science to back up your argument that we're born to be carivores...it's probably going to be difficult...because there isn't any.

[GregWhelan]

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I just don't buy it. Isnt there the argument that although it took us hundreds of years to become meat eaters, that doesnt mean that we were meant to be vegeterian.

From a personal point of view, if I have a meal of pasta with no meat in, or a meal of pasta with meat in e.g. lasagna I know which one will make me feel better afterward.

[Jenks]

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Humans were born to be carnivores, simple as that!

That just isn't true. Just because we have the ability to digest meat doesn't mean that's what we're supposed to eat. Our bodies actually better off on a plant based diet, and throughout time most humans have lived a mostly vegetarian diet. We have only recently in the past couple generations become meat lovers. We're more closely linked with herbivores than carnivores in nearly every category, and our bodies thrive on plants rather than meats, although the commercialized meat industry will tell you differently. You should check this doc: www.forksoverknives.com

[GregWhelan]

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Always have been and always will be a meat-eater.

Humans were born to be carnivores, simple as that!

[Jenks]

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i bought a small tub the other week. a little pricey, but they make the potatoes and mushrooms taste AMAZING.

how do you render your duck fat? I mean, what'st he process? where do you get the bulk duck fat? I've rendered beef fat before, and I've got some chicken fat that I've already rendered. i just don't know where to get duck fat to render.

Do not buy duck fat. Buy a duck.

There is a farmers market a couple of miles from our house that sells whole fresh ducks on the weekends. $13 per duck. You do the butchering, it's fun, and you should know how to do that anyway. If you don't know how to butcher a duck, youtube can probably tell you.

Once you've removed all the good stuff (breasts, leg, etc) what's left is where you're getting your fat. Start trimming the carcass, all the skin and fat, chopping everything up into small bite size pieces. Throw those bits into an iron skillet or a heavy pot with a little water, prob 1/2 cup per duck, and cook it over medium heat for about an hour. What's left is two amazing things: 1. a shitload of clear heavenly liquid- aka Duck Fat. 2. Cracklins! Drain the fat (might want to run it through a light strainer) into a jar and put it in the fridge. Put all the cracklins on a paper towel and pat them dry. Open a can of beer and start shoving those cracklins in your face and wash them down with beer. I prefer to do this with no pants on. It's amazing. Crispy, salty, duck skin/fat chips and beer. mmmmmm.

That is the cheapest and most fun way to get yourself some duck fat... plus you get all the duck meat to cook later. Med rare pan seared duck breast is awesome. for $13 bucks, you get a several amazing meals providing you know how to prepare duck leg, duck breast, you get a jar of fat that'll last you a long time, and you get the cracklin snacks that you drool over with beer when you're done. It's an amazing couple of hours.