god vs. god MMV

[bart_smastard]

Re: miketpoto

beliefs faiths religion .. I and many like me don't have them , it is a touchy subject for you but not half the population. I can link up a few posts where you are ridiculing fat ppl if u like . And that is a vry serious subject for some it causes life threatening eating dissorders and clinical depression . But as i said before you seem to think that is okay because it is within your boundries of acceptable humour . Go show it some fat 10 y.o. girl who spends all her time in school getting bullied and called names because of her weight . Then maybe half this forum will start calling you EVIL . Step back and take perspective for fucks sake .

my previous post was a bit of an olive branch because i could see ure point of view . but ure obviously blinkered view on this subject has started to get me vexed

[Kamal]

Re: miketpoto

how can you say its hypocritical when I can personally swear for not having mocked another religion's god and have not read anyone else's mockery (be it verbal or visual) on this forum, esp of those who have posted against the image...

its not even being negatively aggressive to the religion, its about shit smearing the god of that religion, that for me is low belted. Heck I think what the muslim extremists are lower than the lowest form of inhumanity you can conceive, but I still dont blame allah or paste a sickening image of him.

If you are even partly a religious person or fear god, you wouldn't even have the courage to post that (now I sound like CDJ) but shit I could never abuse someone's belief to that extent.

[bart_smastard]

Re: miketpoto

There has been sense in everything you have said E and i have agreed with %80 of it . My only real gripe with everyone who disagreed was that when it comes to matters such as these we all become hypocritical me included . We all have areas we consider out of bounds when it comes to critisism or telling jokes about but we all laugh at other stuff we shouldn't in fear of offending others. You either say it is all wrong or say it is all right but u can't expect everyone to conform to your ideas of acceptability or mine . I could of put that last bit better i know but the jist of what i'm saying is bite ure lip if it dosn't suite ure tastes or put the same rules on mocking anything that could be considered offensive to anyone

[Kamal]

Re: miketpoto

you're missing my point mate...... I never questioned his right to state / paste what he wanted to, if I felt his right was under any question, I would have deleted it myself. It's poor judgement that I'm talking about and keeping other feelings beliefs in mind when doing something like that, irrespective of where you are, be it reality or a message board.

[bart_smastard]

Re: miketpoto

if i spoke like i do and aired the views the way i do on the net in the fleshy world i would constantly have two black eyes and would be missing most of my teeth. i spend my working life dancing round other peoples sensibilities. this was a religous jokes thread cowardly's jokes were in good taste mikes wasn't but my point is he had everyright to put it into this forum in my opinion. i know your a hindu and to be honnest out of all religions it is my favourite you seem to have more fun and occasions are big celebrations and there isn't all the dowdyness of other religions . also there is alot of humour in your coulture and an ability to laugh at yourselves . this has ment your coulture out of all those from the east has settled into the western world the best and of all major immigrant nations you are the least resented and most accepted . humour even near the knuckle stuff brings ppl together the ability to have a laugh is what seperates us " from every other thing that walks with its back to the sun " . arguments are forgotten when you can look back and laugh

[Kamal]

Re: miketpoto

I am not christian either bart, but you dont see me chuckling here mate.... there's a line you've gotta draw and know what is within the realms of fair humor and one that's crossing limits. If you read my earlier posts, I dont bash joking around, I'm one fucking clown short of a red nose, all I'm saying is you have to realize what limits are.... else we might as well be walking around naked dragging our women back to our caves by their hair.

Its the knowledge of being able to use our best judgements towards whats right and wrong that differentiates us from every other thing that walks with its back to the sun. Yes end of the day there's no right or wrong and its all human opinion, but only in mr. philosophers world bro.

[bart_smastard]

Re: miketpoto

a fair few people did find it funny .. everyone has different opinions on what is funny and what is not . same as some have strong aversions to the use of such things to be put into the public domain . people have the right to say what they want so long as they are not trying to incite hatred towards a group/minority . there have been numerous postings of fat people on the nonsense board . some large ppl could be hugely offended by such a thing . but ure not fat so u don't give a fuck and have a chuckle . we don't give a fuck about religion and have a chuckle . see how it all works now E

[Kamal]

Re: miketpoto

I dont follow what you are saying, are you trying to justify that the image has its place in humor ? you need humor, rent a video of "mind your language" mate, not chuckle at a naked jesus with a dumb ass tagline

[bart_smastard]

Re: miketpoto

religion gets you through life E, humour gets me through the day . and good humour/bad humour is worth defending , i admit it was in poor taste i said that earlier howeva this t-shirt was aimed at the christian faith . turn the other cheek . lest you not judge or you will be judged ureself ect.ect. if your a true believer in that faith and follow those words then why get all arsey and not simply ignore it

[Kamal]

Re: miketpoto

no matter what all you have to say about CDJ and his beliefs, he doesn't ridicule anyone or make such a degradation of your beliefs, he just conveys his own in a fashion most people find unacceptable,

all in all, my point here is NOT about religion, or about your beliefs, its about conveying such a cheap meaning for something thats so damn important to the entire christian population on the planet.

You dont like CDJ's beliefs, fuck him for it, why go 2 steps beyond just to prove him wrong

[bart_smastard]

Re: miketpoto

I was going to type this out last night but i didn't want to go making a anti/pro religous thread out of this .This thread all started because CDJ likes to shout about his religion and also use it as a stick to beat others with . I make no appologies or explanations for my loathing of religion i have them but i ain't gonna use them . Howeva i have no problems what so eva with religous people we all gotta share this little planet so we gotta get try to get along. Relgion is a personal matter a private matter and and when it is kept as such i realy do think it is a good thing for it gives those people a good sense of well being and purpose .but i'll repeat BUT when someone shouts about it and brings it into debate like any subject matter it had better stand up to scrutinity for otherwise it will get torn to pieces and all flaws exposed . Just like mike has made a lifestyle choice about his sexuality you have made a lifestyle choice in following your faith . If mike came on here everyday saying how each and everyone of us was inferior for liking boobs and that obviously all it would take is a higher I.Q. to see his side of the argument he would be shot down and ridiculed everyday .. he dosn't so we don't .

[asdf_admin]

Re: miketpoto

you are more in touch with the world and culture. i feel the same things -e-.

gplur. global peace love unity respect.

[Kamal]

Re: miketpoto

yes, and empathy for something that means something to others. Even if it was printed on a T-Shirt doesnt mean

A) It was right
B) Makes it any better if you relay it

How can you even show your belief in God let alone respect towards him by conveying that.... fuck I look at that and it still bugs me

[asdf_admin]

Re: miketpoto

-e- ... i was worried that was going to come over the wrong way. i actually thought that would be the best way to convey our point. r e s p e c t.

[asdf_admin]

Re: miketpoto

i am stating the facts what "they" believe .

there are always two sides bart. always. you just have to make a choice.