sadly i admit (re:cheney)

[superdave]

Re: sadly i admit (re:cheney)

if they were so concerned about the loss of american lives, they should have hit harder when we went in. its like they allowed the lives to be lost so they could harp on it. i'd love to see seom politicians say, ""ya know what, lets just level the fucking place and avoid any more deaths""

We did hit them hard. We hit them with the "Shock and Awe" bombing display of power at the very beginning. The only way we could have hit them harder would have caused massive collateral damage.

[superdave]

Re: sadly i admit (re:cheney)

They are nothing if they are not gutless. They better get someone with some balls to run the show if that want to win shit. I also think this current blitz on the Bush Admin is too much too soon, we're a long way out from mid-term elections. The owness is on them, we NEED some balance in our government before things get too far right.

I hate defending the Democrats, but I don't see how you think the Democrats are gutless in this instance. They didn't have information to suggest there wasn't WMDs. They were being told by the CIA(Tenet's slam dunk), Colin Powell, and Dick Cheney that their were WMDs. Plus, at that time, people were scared and looking to the governent to protect them.

However, the Democrats should have fought to have the updates back in 2002 or 2003.

The real blame goes to the people who provided the false information that got us into this war.

[Yao]

Re: sadly i admit (re:cheney)

But additional to that I miss those people that are now arguing against the war simply saying that although their opinion has changed under the influence of all intelligence that since has become available, they were wrong to vote for the war in the first place. It's just annoying to see that they're constantly bypassing that fact and not taking responsability for it: before accusing others, a mea culpa would be in place I think.

[thesightless]

Re: sadly i admit (re:cheney)

ummm spuerdave, multiple senators have admitted that the intellingence that turns out to be flawed, and that you blame on tenet, powell, and other repub hounds, was the SAME INTELLINGENCE THAT WAS gathered by clinton's CIA directors and military appointees, just just blame the current folk for the fuck up, look back all the way the root of the problem. dont look to trash the ppl you/I/ whoever oppose, look to the truth. only 1, YES 1 (one, uno), senator voted against the war. and less than a dozen have said that they wouldnt have voted, given what is known now.

also dont disregard the fact that the weapons, chemical could have been hidden, or shipped outside the country, to iran, ssyria, afghan, or simply hidden in tthe sand. no one outside the Baath party leadership and the Iraqi military ppl who actually oversaw the programmes wil ever know.

GOD its so easy to point fingers.

[PROG]

Re: sadly i admit (re:cheney)

lol this thread is weak...THE SAME INTELLIGENCE..like it was a REAL INTELLIGENCE....