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  • rubyraks
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    Originally posted by KinKyJ
    Let's just say the CEO of Sony has to study harder to become CEO, put in more hours and bears more responsability than the chump at the assembly line.

    Little example to show how far that responsability goes: one of the companies I do consulting for had an accident in their factory (basicly one of the workers got squished under a 200 ton press during maintance). Even though it was blatant that the worker didn't follow the safety procedures at all AND was under the influence of drugs, the CEO was dragged in front of the court. Belgian law states that the hierachic line bears full responsability of what goes on inside a factory and should take measures to prevent shit like that happening.

    So yeah, big difference in pay, but it has a reason and imo it's too simplistic to go bashing CEO's like this.
    ONLY 3% OF STUDENTS at the top 146 colleges come from families in the bottom income quartile; only 10% come from the bottom half.

    Is that still fair or are essentially those CEOs riding the backs of those unprivileged that don't have the same opportunities and then when they find themselves in the privileged position of CEO, they continue to take that same advantage of those below them by paying themselves more and more and the workers less and less. Kinda like the US Congress, who find it important enough to give themselves many raises over the years, yet leave minmum wages untouched. Do the congressman have any new responsibilities that warrants giving themselves more money, but none to the everyday worker?

    I really hate the argument that boils down to once privileged always privileged and screw the rest, ie. it takes money to make money. It really is impossible to grow as a society as a whole if that's the way forward.

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  • KinKyJ
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    Originally posted by rubyraks
    so does a CEO who loses money for their company still deserve an exorbitant salary? It's hard to argue that that CEO has earned it, he just so happens to get it because of his position in society. I've seen ridiculous bonuses for CEOs who have done nothing but lose money year after year. What the hell are they getting a bonus for?
    for the stupidty level of the shareholders...

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  • rubyraks
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    so does a CEO who loses money for their company still deserve an exorbitant salary? It's hard to argue that that CEO has earned it, he just so happens to get it because of his position in society. I've seen ridiculous bonuses for CEOs who have done nothing but lose money year after year. What the hell are they getting a bonus for?

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  • res0nat0r
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    i dont disagree with the article, more power to larry ellison and his yacht(s), if i was in their spot i would agree with you 100%. i am just jealous

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  • thesightless
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    im in the boat of you earn it, you keep it. just because bill gates was a marketing genious doesnt mean he should share his money. if a CEO can jump his company up in the ranks, he should be compensated. and when companies are worth billions, then millions in pay is spot on.

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  • KinKyJ
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    Let's just say the CEO of Sony has to study harder to become CEO, put in more hours and bears more responsability than the chump at the assembly line.

    Little example to show how far that responsability goes: one of the companies I do consulting for had an accident in their factory (basicly one of the workers got squished under a 200 ton press during maintance). Even though it was blatant that the worker didn't follow the safety procedures at all AND was under the influence of drugs, the CEO was dragged in front of the court. Belgian law states that the hierachic line bears full responsability of what goes on inside a factory and should take measures to prevent shit like that happening.

    So yeah, big difference in pay, but it has a reason and imo it's too simplistic to go bashing CEO's like this.

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  • res0nat0r
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    ^^no commie, im just pissed im not an exec at exxon

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  • rubyraks
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    so therefore the CEOs get to take all the spoils? I believe in fair compensation, even more than fair compensation, but the amount of disequality between the pay raises of CEOs and those of their workers is criminal.

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  • KinKyJ
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    what are you resonator? a commie? if it weren't for CEO's there wasn't an economy to start with...

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  • rubyraks
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    all very true, but look at how good the economy is doing...

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