Fuc^ing hell...

[KinKyJ]

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^^^ how about prostitution, topless beaches, ... (just staying in my sphere of interest )

patriotism is politically correct nationalism imo, nothing more, nothing less.

[Shpira]

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freedom of speech, freedom of association...but hey got the right to bear arms...I wonder how many of your fellow Americans have actually read the constitution and I wonder how many of those with an IQ above 80 think that the US today is what the founding fathers intended it to be...

[thesightless]

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shpira, did you bother to ask why so many "mexican and puerto ricans" are in iraq?

because they come here poor, looking for oppurtunity, and the youth who cannot afford a private collegiate education get it paid for by the military. its a huge incentive for someone loooking learn a trade at an extremely high lvl, but cant pay for it themselves. the mliitary academies that they are permitted to attend are great universities, and the on the job training is tops.

[thesightless]

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we have hookers in certain places, topless beaches as well.

speech and association are covered a well. again, it isnt our countries with laws preventing controversial views like holocost denial.

[Shpira]

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no patriotism is supposed to be love for your country where as nationalism is thinking your shit doesn't stink...

[Yao]

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shpira, did you bother to ask why so many "mexican and puerto ricans" are in iraq?

because they come here poor, looking for oppurtunity, and the youth who cannot afford a private collegiate education get it paid for by the military. its a huge incentive for someone loooking learn a trade at an extremely high lvl, but cant pay for it themselves. the mliitary academies that they are permitted to attend are great universities, and the on the job training is tops.

See...you just said it. REAL freedom is the ability to make it outside of the army, in normal society. You say there's less racism in the US, I say there may even be more, be it latently. What the fuck is freedom if you need to go into the army to get something done?

At present there are more ethcnic tensions in Europe than in the US, and for once I do agree that Europe could learn a great deal from the US when it comes to integration. The other side it that the tension is mostly focused on the Muslim minorities (except in France, there it's just foreign youths in general), because we are kinda very close to that area. Nevertheless my country now has 2 Islamic deputies of state in the Govt (or state secretaries, need to confirm). They are fully integrated, and I trust them more than some of my native Dutch representatives

[Shpira]

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man freedom of speech and association my ass...You are living in an illusion I have nothing more to say...In the 60's the US prosecuted people and killed on the basis that they are communists now it does the same the label has just changed...

The US as a country is the biggest load of bullocks so many lies told and people still believe...
As for the poor Mexicans what has American given to them that is so valuable that they should go to war where "their" govt. will give them depleted uranium shells to use and then when they get ill from them say its due to normal background radiation...then they get home don't have a health care system and god knows the army will not help them so fuck it they'll die and no one will remember...we can always get a whole other bunch of retards and even though they are not old enough to drink we'll gear them up and ship them of to kill and when they go fucking insane and torture and kill civilians...oh well we'll cover that up to fuck it...its darkies killing darkies anyway...
thats the US for you in short...

[Jenks]

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Yao, Shitpira, have either one of you been to the US? Excuse me here as i don't have time to sit and wait for your dumbass answer, i'm guessing, NO, in which case, stfu about what you think you know. I'm pretty tired of being painted as a dumbass american who can't read, doesn't have any freedom, and doesn't give a shit about anyone, and ohhh, i'm being lied to, blah blah blah. The only people i don't give a shit about, are idiots who stereotype an entire group of people based on what they "heard" or what they think they know. It's really disgusting tbh.

I've been to your country, now you come to mine, and i'll show you a different America than the one your sucking off the end of the media's cock.

[Jenks]

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man freedom of speech and association my ass...You are living in an illusion I have nothing more to say...In the 60's the US prosecuted people and killed on the basis that they are communists now it does the same the label has just changed...

The US as a country is the biggest load of bullocks so many lies told and people still believe...
As for the poor Mexicans what has American given to them that is so valuable that they should go to war where "their" govt. will give them depleted uranium shells to use and then when they get ill from them say its due to normal background radiation...then they get home don't have a health care system and god knows the army will not help them so fuck it they'll die and no one will remember...we can always get a whole other bunch of retards and even though they are not old enough to drink we'll gear them up and ship them of to kill and when they go fucking insane and torture and kill civilians...oh well we'll cover that up to fuck it...its darkies killing darkies anyway...
thats the US for you in short...

lol@ that whole post. you're an idiot. jesus, did bululu create an alias? way to stereotype and simplify. you don't know shit about the US. It would be a waste of my time to tell you differently, because you still wouldn't get it, so i won't bother.

[thesightless]

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yao, are you kidding me?

they indeed have the option to pursue education without the military aid. but it is at the public institutions, and for minimal money, the highest tutition for a public uni here is 6K a year in cali, and 3.5K for NY, cheaper in most other areas. but the military is guaranteed training and job with pay, so for the bottom tier of income, it is there so they can attain a higher lvl of education/job training than from a public institution.

shpira, you really dont have a clue and have a vengence against this place. you are targeting an extremely small portion of people and making it sound like it is how the whole palce works. i dont see a homeless person in london and say "wow, the UK really ignores thier poor" beause a small segment of society is in severe distress. stop beleiveing all the "america is evil" hype. ask someone who actually lives here instead of relying on a reporter or commentator with an agenda. if you dont beleive me, go ask em.

[thesightless]

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ask jenks, who, ( and no offense jenks), lives is what outsiders deem the deep heart of america, i.e. republican territory, the heartland, middle america and every other stereotype liberal cunts call the region, on what life is really like, cuz hey, im in NYC, and we have it all here. so ask him, is it really nothing but white people who are in the KKK and attend mass every day?

[Shpira]

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Its nothing personal...I can write a book on all the things that are wrong with the US and yes I have been there (Florida)...I simplified my argument purposely not to get bogged down in shit YOU as Patriot don't know about YOUR own country...I am perfectly satisfied with this outcome I am an Idiot and you live and love USA, OK...thats fine with me.

[Shpira]

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Yeah I generally think of the east coast being quite nice and if I had to live somewhere in the US it would be New York most likely...

[thesightless]

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you arent an idiot, i never said that, so stop being sensitive. i just want some reasoning on why you think we live in communist america.

[Jenks]

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thats too bad for the both of you then. here, no one cares. its that simple. the non US world only sees things like the anti-immigration news, hardline vocal people with asinine opinions, and stupid politics. most people here, are simply american, and couldnt give a shit.

Spot on.