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Re: 2009 Formula One
I started a thread on this a couple of months back
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I started a thread on this a couple of months back
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also try
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Re: 2009 Formula One
After race stewards meet in Sepang to review the Hamilton/Truilli incident at the end of the Melbourne GP, Lewis Hamilton was disqualified from the Australian GP after it was found that Hamilton and McLaren had provided 'deliberately misleading' evidence to the stewards in Australia.
This is consistent with the stance that Truilli had taken since last weekends race.Comment
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The FIA has published the key evidence that led to Lewis Hamilton’s disqualification from the Australian Grand Prix – including audio recordings that reveal he was instructed to let Jarno Trulli pass him.
Trulli was penalised after the race for illegally overtaking Hamilton under safety car conditions, but the stewards rescinded that penalty when they reconvened in Malaysia on Thursday after finding that Hamilton had allowed the Toyota driver past.
The stewards excluded Hamilton from the results on the basis that he and McLaren had given them a “deliberately misleading” account of events.
McLaren subsequently apologised for the confusion it had caused but stressed that it had not intentionally misled the stewards.
The team said it had not mentioned its radio exchanges with Hamilton at the post-race hearing in the mistaken belief that the FIA had already reviewed them.
However, the latest statement published by the FIA summarising the stewards’ reasons disputes that explanation.
It says Hamilton and McLaren team manager Dave Ryan explicitly denied that any instruction was given to let Trulli past.
The recording of the radio transmissions reveals that Hamilton was told to cede the place back to Trulli and quickly responded to the instruction – although McLaren continued to seek clarification of the situation from FIA race director Charlie Whiting and Hamilton asked whether he would be able to repass the Toyota.
A second audio recording confirms that Hamilton told journalists immediately after the race – before the stewards’ meeting – that he had been told to let Trulli through.
The statement said: “During the hearing, held approximately one hour after the end of the race, the stewards and the race director questioned Lewis Hamilton and his team manager David Ryan specifically about whether there had been an instruction given to Hamilton to allow Trulli to overtake.
“Both the driver and the team manager stated that no such instruction had been given.
“The race director specifically asked Hamilton whether he had consciously allowed Trulli to overtake. Hamilton insisted that he had not done so.
“The new elements presented to the stewards several days after the 2009 Australian Grand Prix which led to the reconvened stewards’ meeting clearly show that:
“a) Immediately after the race and before Lewis Hamilton attended the stewards’ Meeting he gave an interview to the media where he clearly stated that the team had told him to let Trulli pass
“b) Furthermore, the radio exchanges between the driver and the team contain two explicit orders from the team to let the Toyota pass.
“The stewards, having learned about the radio exchanges and the media interview, felt strongly that they had been misled by the driver and his team manager which led to Jarno Trulli being unfairly penalised and Lewis Hamilton gaining third place.”
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WOAH. WOW this REALLY is going to be an interesting season.Comment
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wow, that is very interesting.
pretty sad that teams are still keeping back information in order to gain a few points."pics or stfu" - R.I.P. Steve "Jibgolly" JamesComment
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Button on pole again, it's all a bit surreal.Comment
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It's weird seeing the top teams from last year qualifying in the middle of the grid and the likes of Button, who had an awful season last year, sitting proudly on poll. I couldn't ask for more though, a British team and a British driver.
I'm still a bit nervous as to how the 'defuser' saga is going to pan out. If they find what Brawn and a few others are using is illegal they could take all their points away.Comment
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Qualifying can be had here
Thanks to whoever uploaded this.Comment
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Considering that the FIA, through the race stewards in Melbourne, has approved the diffusers, leaves many to believe that he court will do the same.
Apparently, according to one of the pundits I was listening to this morning, the court rarely goes against the decisions of the FIA.
If Ferrari want to dispute the diffusers instead of bringing their vehicles up to scratch, so be it, but surely its better for the team to embrace the changes and move on.
As for Red Bull, Renault and BMW - certainly looking at their speeds, either with or without using Kers, I can see very little distinction in their speeds compared to Brawn, Williams and Toyota - RB are pumping out times that Williams can barely match in qualifying and the race itself - so I'm not really sure the diffuser offers all that much extra speed.
And lets be realistic, at the end of the day, these new rules and specifications were brought in to ensure that F1 moves back to fighting for positions on the track.
Whilst last weeks Vettel and Kunica crash was unfortunate for them, a faster car moving to over take for a podium position in the final laps of a race is exactly why the regs have changed this year - it made fantastic viewing.Comment
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Good post.
I certainly agree that the new diffusers will hold up because after all, they are in legality of the rules, and that is all that matters. This whole crap about them not being up to code because of the "meaning of the rule" is complete bullshit. If you want the rule to mean something, say it in the rule. If you leave a rule up to interpretation, this is what happens... quit crying and live with it.
Of course, Formula One have, at least in the past, been sucking Ferrari dick so anything can happen."pics or stfu" - R.I.P. Steve "Jibgolly" JamesComment
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It's not raining yet, but Kimi has gone for wets
Martin Brundle "it's under-steering like a cross-channel ferry at the moment !"
He's 21 secs off the pace - think Ferrari may regret losing Brawn !sigpicSimonR
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i tell ya i think that was by far the funnest race i've seen. Button going into the pits about every two to three laps and then it finally gets called on rain. What a race, it's always funny to watch guys slip sliding away.Comment
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An excellent race - shame about the early stop.
We got a better idea about some of the car, specifically the speed of that Red Bull - bang goes their diffuser argument.
Buttons speed just prior to his first pit stop was astronomically fast compared to the others.
Could it be 3 for 3 in China?Comment
Hamilon provided 'deliberately misleading' evidence I don't believe it. I'm sure Ron Dennis had it all sorted on the imaginary radio during the race.
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