True Democracy manifests itself not only in the rule of the majority-it also is shown in the protection of the rights of minorities. Gays and Lesbians (andI'm not one of either class) should be given the same rights that all other people have. This would include the right to get married (and all associated rights), the rights to have children, etc. It easy to discriminate against people who are different from you, especially when you are the majority. But that doesn't make it right. Gays and Lesbians can't help that God made them that way.
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True Democracy manifests itself not only in the rule of the majority-it also is shown in the protection of the rights of minorities. Gays and Lesbians (andI'm not one of either class) should be given the same rights that all other people have. This would include the right to get married (and all associated rights), the rights to have children, etc. It easy to discriminate against people who are different from you, especially when you are the majority. But that doesn't make it right. Gays and Lesbians can't help that God made them that way. -
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Boy, this post is back from the dead. For my thoughts on the matter, see the previous seven pages of posts. With that said...
This raises an interesting question, I think. The ultra-religious often discuss homosexuality as if it were an affront to God himself. Although I am a far cry from a religious scholar, doesn't the religious right believe that God is essentially the creator of all people and things? How then do they reconcile this? Did God create homosexuals, but screw up? The idea of God botching something probably wouldn't wash well with the religious set.Originally posted by DJkeithraceGays and Lesbians can't help that God made them that way.
Anyone have any idea how these ideas mesh?Comment
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Living in the podunk part of the country that I do, I am fortunate (Originally posted by toastyHow then do they reconcile this? Did God create homosexuals, but screw up? The idea of God botching something probably wouldn't wash well with the religious set.
Anyone have any idea how these ideas mesh?
) to have access to a plethora of religious fundamentalists. Their majority belief is that homosexuals are deviant and have been led astray by the devil. The religious right feels that god created them, but by their own choice (with the help of 'ol Lucifer) became homosexual.
A good shower head and my right hand - the two best lovers that I ever had.Comment
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^^^^ And the same people choose to ignore the many animal species that have members which are "gay", they must have been led astray by the devil too."They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security." -Benjamin FranklinComment
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Damn that is a bold stance by canada but I know someone was going to eventually do it. I don't agree with but to each is own.Religion and Politics will never go together. So as soon as the gov't and the church can realize this. The better off thing will be in the long run.Common Sense is not Common at all.Comment
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does the law apply to all of canada?
so mounties can do mounties now if they so desire?
crazy.
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What really gets me is that the argument being used against gay marriage is that marriage was a term defined by religion. Is this defined by 1 religion only? And what is preventing a new religion from starting up which allows for gay marriage? If someone started such a religion, would the state then be preventing said religion from practicing their beliefs?"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security." -Benjamin FranklinComment
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That's a damn good point. My dad is a minister, and come to think of it, he has done services for homosexual couples in the past -- they weren't legally recognized, of course, but it did at least allow the couples the ceremonial aspect of it, in church and everything. That highlights, I think, your point that "religion" is not an absolute term, and that there is certainly room for disagreement amongst those that consider themselves "religious" as to what is and is not acceptable.Originally posted by neoeeWhat really gets me is that the argument being used against gay marriage is that marriage was a term defined by religion. Is this defined by 1 religion only? And what is preventing a new religion from starting up which allows for gay marriage? If someone started such a religion, would the state then be preventing said religion from practicing their beliefs?Comment
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Oh, and by the way, I think I will set up my own religion right now: The Church of Toasty. I believe that homosexuals ought to be able to get married if they want to. I also believe that telemarketing is a sin against my God, and I'd like to see a constitutional amendment outlawing it. The Church of Toasty also believes that dunking an overcooked piece of meat in BBQ sauce does not qualify as real barbeque, and that doing so ought to be criminal.
All are welcome in the Church of Toasty.
Donations accepted and encouraged, and can be made via PayPal to churchoftoasty@yahoo.com.Comment
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I just donated, am I a member now? Best church ever! Hail toasty!
I take it services are held in your backyard and accompanied by a good BBQ?Blowkick visual & graphic design - No Civilization. Now With Broadband.
There are but three true sports -- bullfighting, mountain climbing, and motor-racing. The rest are merely games. -HemingwayComment
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Why on earth shouldn't this be legal - people's sexual preferences has NOTHING to do with the church or other religious belief
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If two people loves each other then why not show it by getting married? I really cannot see the harm done and my view of Canada as an open and admirable society now only stands stronger... much stronger than US for example!
I wonder if the majority of replies here are signals of homophobia or just narrowmindedness.Comment
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