Britain leaves EU

[DIDI]

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^^ How many communities have to keep "coming together" before America wakes up ??

[floridaorange]

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^Cautionary tale to be sure... as a long side note in response to your comment about populism, Trump and the US, I really do hope America is not headed in that direction. I think populism has a tribalism component to it as well, which has been brewing strongly since the Bush administration I think. That administration really cut out a lot of the social care parts of our society, which signaled to a lot of America that money was more important than people. And fuck that by the way. But Trump has been digging his own campaigns grave now for months, and will be impossible to dig himself out of it. I think our country is actually slowly on the right track as far as the collective consciousness goes. I guess living close to this last horrendous attack on a night club and witnessing the community come together and it still is has given me new hope in the midst of all the darkness.

[AchtungBaby!]

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From Brussels, Brexit looks a lot like Kabuki theater | Public Radio International

Never heard of Kabuki theater metaphor before and agree pretty much with everything. Good one.


Would say it looks like the first phase of populism (first world populism in this case) .. A perverse mechanism used by politicians that sounds good (specially for those in need) but extremelly difficult to put in practice.. if not impossible.


Appealing populism is very common in southamerica and it cyclically get success from politicians because people is sick of big bussines, media and hegemonic groups, etc. Years later, people get sick of politicians (who at least in southamerica they all end up as thiefs and corrupt when they get full power) and the cicle starts again.


Thats why Trump is a mistery to me.. A filthy rich business man appealing neo fascist populism and not a few people believe his crap of making america great again.. He has the worst of both sides.

[floridaorange]

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From Brussels, Brexit looks a lot like Kabuki theater | Public Radio International

[thebanned1]

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unfortunately it is heavily biased in favour of this being a great thing without even touching the reality or consequences of this actually happening, if this story is anything to go by then the NY times is living in a complete fantasy world

[Jenks]

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wasn't necessarily agreeing with it, but that's the sentiment out there and with Marine La Pin having a fighting change, France's EU referendum could be up next.

shit is crumbling. how amazingly fragile everything is.

[DIDI]

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another good piece:

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No.

[DIDI]

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To me, it really seemed like a lot of the populace of the UK were getting fed up with referendums and elections, and wanted a simple solution to a problem that was pretty complex with no easy explanations and prone to a lot of misinformation, exaggeration and hyperbole from each side. I think it doesn't help that there's a rising anti-intellectual movement that feels like they know more than the experts, based upon either their narcissistic idea that how they feel is more valuable than actually being informed of the consequences of their actions.

I am pretty amused how the guys that were responsible for pushing the leave vote are backpeddling furiously on the platform promises that they knew they couldn't deliver on.

This was a really stupid, self inflicted wound the older citizens inflicted on themselves and the younger generation. Evidence is probably best shown with how the UK just lost their triple A credit rating today.

Well if the younger generation had actually come out and voted they might have got what they wanted.

[floridaorange]

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That kid yelling at the man twice his size reminds me of someone on MS.

[thebanned1]

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another good piece:

Log In - The New York Times

great article especially due to the fact that britain has now given a strong voice to people like these

great article indeed, not

[thebanned1]

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because you must admit, although there is a serious side to it it's also funny

[floridaorange]

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^"pornhub" and all porn is so stupid, why this video was uploaded and then advertised on social media is the height of stupidity.

Thanks Jenks for the post

[thebanned1]

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[thebanned1]

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I think it's pretty relevant since rich people like him wont lose.. Before losing, he will not create jobs as you say... He will do that and everything he can (and powerful people like him can do a lot) to preserve his company - fortune or whatever you want to call it, and sooner or later he will achieve his objectives.

that's a scary thought, i,m with virgin for my broadband, don't want to see a price increase..

i think a lot of people like him ( business types ) have a lot to loose, i saw one guy ( can't remember who he is ) loose 900 M from his fortune straight after the vote

Needless to say who are now and will be the most affected.. just for start, 3000 people are already "paying" brexit .. Branson is already controlling brexit damage.

the thing is, the more guys like this are hit hard by this then the likely hood is that people will loose their jobs which also hits the amount of tax paid into the system, no one has really planned for an exit

[AchtungBaby!]

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doesn't matter if he's rich or not, that is irrelevant here, what really matters is he's a job creator right across the country and has just been forced to cancel a plan to create 3000 jobs due to brexit

I think it's pretty relevant since rich people like him wont lose.. Before losing, he will not create jobs as you say... He will do that and everything he can (and powerful people like him can do a lot) to preserve his company - fortune or whatever you want to call it, and sooner or later he will achieve his objectives.


Needless to say who are now and will be the most affected.. just for start, 3000 people are already "paying" brexit .. Branson is already controlling brexit damage.