Opinion for the day - Solution for Immigration problem

[KinKyJ]

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I missed the politics forum. The main thing on the news here is all the shit about immigration and it is more of a mask to hide what is going on in Iraq. IMO, I can't wait for 2008 for a new president. McCain \o/

Old wine in new bags imo. Bush has rolled the dices and neither a new republican nor a democrat president can wipe the slate clean just like that. I guess we'll have to sit out the ride: the US citizens because of putting Bush in office twice, the rest of the "free world" for not having the spine to stop him...

[speciale]

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I guess worked got to me today since I forgot about the fuckn french. Their army can never win a war

[speciale]

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Old wine in new bags imo. Bush has rolled the dices and neither a new republican nor a democrat president can wipe the slate clean just like that. I guess we'll have to sit out the ride: the US citizens because of putting Bush in office twice, the rest of the "free world" for not having the spine to stop him...

well, its better that we choose the right man for the job. It will take us a long time to recover from his fuck ups. A long time for the world to recover from it

[KinKyJ]

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well, its better that we choose the right man for the job. It will take us a long time to recover from his fuck ups. A long time for the world to recover from it

Tell me about it: I feel his fuck ups every time I fill my car up with fucking expensive diesel

[Dhar_2]

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surely yhe best idea would be to solve world debit and problems, hence people don't need to immigrate to leech of other societies or for refuge, etc, etc!!!

[KinKyJ]

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surely yhe best idea would be to solve world debit and problems

Shit, why didn't I think of that? That's fucking genial dude

[Dhar_2]

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Shit, why didn't I think of that?

small brain????

[KinKyJ]

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small brain????

Didn't know you held a degree in self diagnostics

[geoffgulley]

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...on this threads note this is the extremes that some people in the U.S. are going to...

A trainee of the civilian patrol group Civil Homeland Defense waves from the U.S. side of the... Minutemen to Bush: Build Fence or We Will
Wednesday, April 19, 2006 10:46 PM EDT
The Associated Press
By ARTHUR H. ROTSTEIN
TUCSON, Ariz. (AP) ? Minuteman border watch leader Chris Simcox has a message for President Bush: Build new security fencing along the border with Mexico or private citizens will.
Simcox said Wednesday that he's sending an ultimatum to the president, through the media, of course ? "You can't get through to the president any other way" ? to deploy military reserves and the National Guard to the Arizona border by May 25.
Or, Simcox said, by the Memorial Day weekend Minuteman Civil Defense Corps volunteers and supporters will break ground to start erecting fencing privately.
"We have had landowners approach," Simcox said in an interview. "We've been working on this idea for a while. We're going to show the federal government how easy it is to build these security fences, how inexpensively they can be built when built by private people and free enterprise."
Simcox said a half-dozen landowners along the Arizona-Mexico border have said they will allow fencing to be placed on their borderlands, and others in California, Texas and New Mexico have agreed to do so as well.
"Certainly, as with everything else, we're only able to cover a small portion of the border," Simcox said. "The state and federal government have bought up most of the land around the border. I suspect that's why we'll never get control of the border."
But he said the plan is to put up secure fencing that truly will be an effective deterrent, and to show how easily it can be accomplished.
Simcox gave this description of the envisioned barrier-and-fencing complex:
Start with a 6-foot deep trench so a vehicle can't crash through; behind it, roll of concertina (coiled, razor-edged barbed wire), in front of a 15-foot high heavy-gauge steel mesh fence angled outward at the top.
Behind the fence will be a 60- to 70-foot wide unpaved but graded dirt road, along with inexpensive, mounted video cameras that can be monitored from home computers. On the other side of the road will be a second, 15-foot fence, with more concertina wire on its outside.
"It's a very simple, effective design based on feedback we've had from Border Patrol and the military," Simcox said. "It's a fence that can be built on the cheap, effective and secure."
Simcox said supporters will try to build the fencing with volunteer labor. Surveyors and contractors have offered to help with the design and survey work, he said, and some have said they will provide heavy equipment.
Simcox said those involved in the planning hope to keep costs to between $125 and $150 a foot.
Access to land literally on the border is an issue because so much is state-leased trust property or federally owned, he said.
"You may have to deal with a situation where private property owners erect their own fences and may be faced with the president sending the National Guard to prevent them from protecting their private property," Simcox said.
He said the Minuteman plan is "to keep turning up the heat" until President Bush has to respond somehow.
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On the Net:
Minuteman Civil Defense Corps: www.minutemanhq.com
Let Freedom Ring: weneedafence.com

[KinKyJ]

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[Morgan]

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My .02 cents.
The french foregin legion is one of the best fighting forces in the world.

Would you make the women and children sign up too for the right to live in the US?

[speciale]

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My .02 cents.
The french foregin legion is one of the best fighting forces in the world.

Would you make the women and children sign up too for the right to live in the US?

can't answer that one. I guess for the children it would be different but woman can fight.

If I was in their shoes, it would be better to joing the military and become a citizen than sneaking in and picking up tomatoes for $2 an hour. The scariest part is that the $2 an hour is still better than what they would get at home.

[geoffgulley]

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The french foregin legion is one of the best fighting forces in the world.

French and best used together in the same sentence..........

[Kamal]

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in a recent interview on TV, Bush himself said that on a visit to a farmers ranch in Texas, the Farmer couldn't find anyone to sow whatever it is you need to sow to grow potatoes because it was a back breaking job and natives of the area weren't willing to do it at the prevailing wage rate.

ANOTHER important point you HAVE to remember is that it is all a demand and supply situation. If AMERICAN businesses wouldn't hire the snot out of them in order to skimp on Medical / Dental / Retirement / Benefits / Bonuses / Pay Raises and whatever else they would need, in order to keep their costs low ....... illegal workers to the US would simply disappear. So its blessid ridiculous to blame them

Its the same useless unthought of ludicrous reason that every other jobless computer programmer in the US blames an Indian for stealing his job when the VERY AMERICAN company he applies for jobs to are the ones who aren't interested in the poor white programmer because they can get a POORER Indian programmer to do the same job in HALF the time without paying ANY bonus AND without any long term commitment.

Capitalism and complaining at its finest imo.

To all those who are looking beyond your boundaries in trying to find blame at other nations, look within your own boundaries on how to fix the problem.

You think if you started setting up 5 year JAIL sentences to ANY American business / family for hiring an illegal, there would be any illegals left in this country ? Think about it

[KinKyJ]

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French and best used together in the same sentence..........

Ze Frenche suque quoque. A friend of mine hooked up with some French dimwit with an Audi TT in Saint Tropez last year. Seemed that the only HP was under the hood of his car. The poor fucker couldn't get it up after SEVEN attempts. Vive la R?publique, ah ouis Fran?ois