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  • Kobe
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    Originally posted by thesightless
    and the abu gharib idiots were a dozen morons out of 200K soldiers, that is like saying all NY'ers are assholes b/c we have 200 crimes a year.

    um that might not have been the best example

    At this point I honestly believe that Kerry is actually secretly working for the RNC, clever bastard. Come on, nobody is this stupid!

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  • jarble187
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    ^^^^Please point me to the vid on msnbc's site. As I understand it, with his first initial apology, he formally apologized to the troops and said that his statement was not pointed at them, nor stating that they are not educated. However, he did say that he stands behind what he meant to say and did not give the president an apology.

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  • thesightless
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    and the abu gharib idiots were a dozen morons out of 200K soldiers, that is like saying all NY'ers are assholes b/c we have 200 crimes a year.

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  • thesightless
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    if you people still think he was joking,

    1. go look up his history and how he got started in politics,
    2. go to msnbc.com and watch the video from IMUS in the morning where kerry refused to apologize and attempted to cover his ass. he wasnt joking, he got the heat, and later, after realizing he did something, pawned it off as a joke. again, just go watch the video, and see yourself. if you havent, dont say he was joking b/c you hold an opinion on the retard in charge...............

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  • rainman
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    Originally posted by jarble187
    Would you consider the soldiers involved in the Abu Ghraib scandal dickheads?
    touche'

    I may have been a little premature to snap on the dickheads comment. totally understand your perspectice now.

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  • jarble187
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    Originally posted by rubyraks
    it's amazing how even on this board you can't say anything critical that even mentions the troops or a few soldiers without being called a traitor...shame on you guys. I thought we were above that fray.
    Its more like "MercuryServer- A Place To Be P.C."

    Its Friday FFS-

    TGIF Everyone!

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  • sammwalk
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    Originally posted by jarble187
    Ok, Im obviously being taken way out of context, as I thought I would posting such a remark. Maybe I should try to explain myself- By no means am I bashing the amry, our troops, your familes, etc. Im am having a hard time understanding why that group of people would take the time to respond to the comment Kerry made about the war. For one, he openly admitted that he messed his joke up and the the root of the joke was was aimed at the way Bush got us into the whole Iraq mess, rather than saying that if your uneducated, you'll end up in Iraq. Coming from troops, I take it, would rather be at home, with their families than stuck out in some desert hallf way around the world being shot at. Doesnt this photo kinda contradict wanting to come home? Sure, I can understand that they would be upset for being called uneducated, but damn the man, Kerry would of been the one chance to bring'em home. Instead, who really knows when this thing is going to end? Surely not during Bush's presidency will we see the end of this. Im just really confused by the fact that if you really didnt want to be there, how can you be pissed of at someone thats trying to take a stab at the whole reason for war? I truely apologize for using such a harsh word in describing how I feel about this group in the photo, and I do not mean it as a personal stab towards anyone (other than the group in the photo), but I think it sends a fucked up message about what is happening in todays political world.
    good response; what you said was a bit harsh, but you clarified yourself. Amazing: one can actually say something and mean one thing, others will take that and twist it into something else, and one can clarify that remark and it makes sense. The thread is a microcosmic version of the Kerry remark. Let's not do what the media did.

    I will say this: shame on the troops in this photo (for making themselves look worse). Since what Kerry said was obviously a joke against Bush and he clarified this, these poor troops are simply making themselves actually look stupid because they 1) don't realize that the remark had nothing to do with them (directly, at least), or 2) they do realize this and they're trying to make Kerry look worse merely for political purposes (which would be partisan, and the troops are not supposed to be partisan).

    So either way, making photos like this is probably not the wisest thing to do, because it seems to partially justifiy what Kerry actually didn't say but everyone thought he said.

    Let's just bring our boys and girls home.

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  • DJJEFFJONES
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    Poto likes dickheads

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  • rubyraks
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    it's amazing how even on this board you can't say anything critical that even mentions the troops or a few soldiers without being called a traitor...shame on you guys. I thought we were above that fray.

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  • jarble187
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    Originally posted by rainman
    Wow! That's pretty harsh!! Those "dickheads" protect our freedom and way of life. I am no means a Bush supporter but alot of those "dickheads" and their families would rather be home than over there risking their life.

    Would you consider the soldiers involved in the Abu Ghraib scandal dickheads?

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  • jarble187
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    Ok, Im obviously being taken way out of context, as I thought I would posting such a remark. Maybe I should try to explain myself- By no means am I bashing the amry, our troops, your familes, etc. Im am having a hard time understanding why that group of people would take the time to respond to the comment Kerry made about the war. For one, he openly admitted that he messed his joke up and the the root of the joke was was aimed at the way Bush got us into the whole Iraq mess, rather than saying that if your uneducated, you'll end up in Iraq. Coming from troops, I take it, would rather be at home, with their families than stuck out in some desert hallf way around the world being shot at. Doesnt this photo kinda contradict wanting to come home? Sure, I can understand that they would be upset for being called uneducated, but damn the man, Kerry would of been the one chance to bring'em home. Instead, who really knows when this thing is going to end? Surely not during Bush's presidency will we see the end of this. Im just really confused by the fact that if you really didnt want to be there, how can you be pissed of at someone thats trying to take a stab at the whole reason for war? I truely apologize for using such a harsh word in describing how I feel about this group in the photo, and I do not mean it as a personal stab towards anyone (other than the group in the photo), but I think it sends a fucked up message about what is happening in todays political world.

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  • rainman
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    Originally posted by anonin
    sorry but thats just retarded and depressing, people are blowing john kerrys remarks WAYYY out of proportion.
    I agree, but to call the troops "dickheads" is a bit much imo.

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  • KinKyJ
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    Originally posted by jarble187
    That is the most retarted response to a stupid joke I have ever seen. Those dickheads deserve to be stuk there. If I was there, Id take all the help I could get to get the hell out. Fucking Bush supporters.
    That's the most retarded response to a response to a stupid joke. I don't see those guys as Bush supporters, but as troops who -even though they're on a mission in hell- have a great sense of humor!

    I don't approve of the invasion in Iraq at all, never have and never will, but I have loads of respect for those men and women, even though I'm not an American. They know they're fighting a wrong war which can't be won better than anyone of us. They were sent there believing they were doing the right thing and all they see is a country falling apart, civilians suffering and themselves as moving targets. Apart from trying to survive each day, I think living with that knowledge is the hardest thing to do. So calling them dickheads who deserve to be "stuk" (sic!) really is way out of line!

    Jeez, never thought I would find that kind of disrespect in the post of an American...

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  • anonin
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    sorry but thats just retarded and depressing, people are blowing john kerrys remarks WAYYY out of proportion.

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  • thesightless
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    those dickheads include people like my family who put the big picture above personal needs, sacrificing years of thier life to attempt to bring stability, doing something that 90% of humanity doesnt have the balls to do.

    not everyone who hates john kerry likes bush either, me for example. kerry is a fucking moron who keep track of his head, bush is an idiot who seems to resemble a mannequin puppet.

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