20 dead at uni shooting :(

[Miguel]

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I hate when people say shit like this. "the best ever" or "the worst ever." the news is the worst. they never do research. I just searched 5 minutes on wikipedia and found dozens of american shootings of more than 30 people people. I hate the news. they're killing us.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres

yeah .. when they say worst ever it opens the door for another crazy fuck to try and beat the record

[Life on Other Planets AKA Johns]

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^^^ hey mate i watched on the news hear.. and they said something like BLACKSBURG, Va. is one of the easiest places to get guns with no check or anything in the US.. hey i am just going by what was said on the news and wanted to findout if thats true.

[Miroslav]

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The reason i ask is cause ont the news over hear i heard that anyone in the US can own a gun without any check's etc..

I have to question the quality of your news sources... Don't just rely on info from people whose opinion of America is formed solely on the basis of watching Baywatch reruns.

[Jenks]

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to reply to johns question-

No you can't just go buy a gun. There are background checks. 7 days. But the process is fairly simple. If you have any criminal background, you can't own a gun. The thing is tho, criminals already have guns, that's why they're criminals, duh!

I have a gun or two. I've never killed anyone. Shocking right? Used to be into hunting. Not so much anymore, but still have the guns. Not getting rid of them either.

It would have been nice if yeah, we didn't ever have guns, i'd be all for that. But we're past that now, because we already have them, and more importantly, criminals will always have them no matter what laws you put in place. So i'll be keeping my guns thanks, because the bad guys have them too. Doesn't make me one spark away from killing 33 people tho on a college campus. The world is full of idiots. Guns or not, people like that are going to find a way to hurt people or do stupid shit. You can make a pipe bomb with simple household materials that would easily kill just as many people. Point is, lunatics are lunatics. Trying to implement gun laws in this country now is a ridiculous idea, it's not going to work. A few hundred years late on that idea.

Saw this T shirt once, cracked me up-

Guns don't kill people, Mario Van Peebles.

[peloquin]

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I hate when people say shit like this. "the best ever" or "the worst ever." the news is the worst. they never do research. I just searched 5 minutes on wikipedia and found dozens of american shootings of more than 30 people people. I hate the news. they're killing us.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres

biggest school shooting death toll i think it was

[Life on Other Planets AKA Johns]

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Hey all just thought i would put my 2 cents in... I am sad to hear the news bout what happened.. my thoughts a pray's are with the families and friends of those dead.. I just wanted to ask you guys that do live in the states.. how easyis it to own a gun/ rifile?? how much do they cost and can any jo blow of the street walk into a shop and get a gun?? do they not do checks on anyone?

The reason i ask is cause ont the news over hear i heard that anyone in the US can own a gun without any check's etc.. Another thing why does this happen so much in the US..my opinion is this gun control plain and simple.. if everyone walks around with guns and guns are so accessiable then of course this is gonna happen. Cause people get paranoid ..i saw the bush speach and frankly it hmm it was not good. If this happened to his kids or people he loved i bet he would change the rules. Anyway just my 2 cents.. RIP to all those that have lost their lives

[picklemonkey]

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ugh,,, the bullshit is already starting. and yes, the bullshit.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,266460,00.html

...the worst mass-murder shooting in American history.

I hate when people say shit like this. "the best ever" or "the worst ever." the news is the worst. they never do research. I just searched 5 minutes on wikipedia and found dozens of american shootings of more than 30 people people. I hate the news. they're killing us.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres

[res0nat0r]

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i still think that is valid, i wouldn't want college kids my age when i was on campus carrying concealed weapons. too many drunk young dumbasses who if they happen to have a gun might do something stupid.

[88Mariner]

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Now here's something that I have yet to see reported in the mainstream media. Earlier this year the Virginia General Assembly failed to act on House Bill 1572. The citizens of Virginia are permitted to carry concealed weapons if they get a proper permit from the state government --- unless you are on a college campus. This bill would have allowed college students and employees to carry handguns on campus --- with appropriate permits, of course. It died in subcommittee. After the bill was thrown out up steps Larry Hincker, a spokesman for Virginia Tech, the site of today's carnage, who says "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."

[simonr]

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Seriously fucked up - thank god our UK guncrime is strictly minor division.

[KinKyJ]

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I found this on godhatesamerica.com...

WBC will preach at the funerals of the Virginia Tech students killed on campus during a shooting rampage April 16, 2007. You describe this as monumental horror, but you know nothing of horror -- yet. Your bloody tyrant Bush says he is 'horrified' by it all. You know nothing of horror -- yet. Your true horror is coming. "They shall also gird themselves with sackloth, and horror shall cover them; and shame shall be upon all faces, and baldness upon all their heads" (Eze. 7:1.
Why did this happen, you ask? It's simple. Your military chose to shoot at the servants of God today, and all they got for their effort was terror. Then, the LORD your God sent a crazed madman to shoot at your children. Was God asleep while this took place? Was He on vacation? Of course not. He willed this to happen to punish you for assailing His servants.

Someone kick those people. Really hard. In the teeth.

[KinKyJ]

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Why does this always seem to happen at a school in the US?

Find the answer to that question on the NRA website...

[day_for_night]

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its very easy to say 'they should have done this or that' after the fact, but the reality is...no one ever thinks someone is gonna go on a mass murder rampage. isolated shootings happen all the damn time, especially in the states...how many of them lead to a guy going ape shit with pistols?
it just doesn't enter into the thought process of the normal individual.

[res0nat0r]

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yeah i and alot of people have been saying that, i guess the investigation will uncover that. the police thinking i think was that this was a small shooting and that the killer had gone off campus and was finished.
the thinking is where do we draw the line when something like this happens? everytime someone calls in a bomb threat, or someone gets shot they were not wanting to shut down the whole town. but in hindsight that is what they should have done, i agree with what you are saying......

[88Mariner]

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uh, no I was thinking the university. there IS an issue of foresight imo. did the university act appropriately to protect students just after the first shooting in the dorm? From the looks, 'no' seems to be the answer. All they did was send out an e-mail telling students to be aware. Which, of course, does not mean every student read those e-mails. It's kinda iffy though.

Think about this: the first two fatalities were reported around 7:15am. Then the spree continued at around 9:45. The school didn't even cancel classes till well after 10am, and nothing was done, it appears, save for the e-mail, between the first and second shooting. imho, that whole campus should have been shut down and police sent to secure the rest of the campus. but they only secured that one dorm. and 30 more innocent victims fell just after....