God

[88Mariner]

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reading d'souza is like reading coulter. i'll pass, thanks.

Beenzncheez: i think you're mistaken...perhaps you meant catholic girls? christian girls are rather prudish and awkward. these are generalizations however....

[88Mariner]

Re: God

ok, just found out that d'souza and coulter dated.

[Miroslav]

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Unfortunately, if only skeptical conclusions lie before us, we have no choice but to admit some faith is involved with our judgments. However, this definition of faith is not something we elect to have- this faith is forced on us by the rejection of all justifications within our own frame of reference. Any intelligent physical beings may eventually discover this about themselves. Therefore, it is a more scientific type of faith. It's a question with no answer, so we continue without addressing it instead of postulating something additional to account for it.

This differs completely from the "faith" that someone has in imaginary beings (or forces). This sort of faith is a choice one makes based on some experiences in their life. It will change for every person, and there is no consistency between such faiths.

Well said! I agree with you. To be clear, my comments were never intended as a defense of organized religion. I guess to me it comes down to this: I can't envision that science ever would or could provide answers to this topic. And so if science can't do it, then is the notion of some sort of an overarching force that originated the universe and everything in it such a ridiculous concept?

[Garrick]

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reading d'souza is like reading coulter. i'll pass, thanks.

Beenzncheez: i think you're mistaken...perhaps you meant catholic girls? christian girls are rather prudish and awkward. these are generalizations however....

as far as i know catholic girls get drunk and put out. at least that has been my experience.

[trick12]

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God is One, no father no son, only one creator could create this universe, if ther were more than one, it would have been over long ago, Jesus is just a prophet sent by his/our creator, to tell us about him and deliver the message so we'll know, the test is to believe or not to belive and bear the consequences...

[sammwalk]

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God is One, no father no son, only one creator could create this universe, if ther were more than one, it would have been over long ago, Jesus is just a prophet sent by his/our creator, to tell us about him and deliver the message so we'll know, the test is to believe or not to belive and bear the consequences...

I mean no offense in what I say here, but I must ask: if you had been told a different story when you grew up (like a parallel you), would you have believed that instead of Christianity? Or should I say, wouldn't you have?

Whereas, at least with science, people from the far ends of the world eventually are forced to agree with each other having no common experience other than their interactions with the world, which do not change with who they are.

If you answered yes to my question above, what if the parallel religion also held you in consequence for not having faith, as Christianity or Islam does? Would you not instead say that the parallel religion is the true faith, and others are imitators?

If you say no, there is no justification for your response. [editing for spelling]

[88Mariner]

Re: God

http://mrdeity.com/

imo

[picklemonkey]

Re: God

God is One, no father no son, only one creator could create this universe, if ther were more than one, it would have been over long ago, Jesus is just a prophet sent by his/our creator, to tell us about him and deliver the message so we'll know, the test is to believe or not to belive and bear the consequences...

please don't try to scare me into believing in God because of the consequences. tell me why you believe in him, minus the obvious fact that you don't want to face the consequences

[Jibgolly]

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^ good point picklemonkey.

[asdf_admin]

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the beauty of religion is that it is indeed a choice. You do not have to believe if you do not want to. It is your own free will that will believe. Frankly, I do not understand how you could not believe in some God. As a photographer I am shocked by the beauty that is held in life, the complexity of our bodies and this eco-system we live in. You can look at all religions and their premise is exactly the same. Most religions always had one powerful God, it is frankly amazing when you dive deep into human history and start drawing out common factors.

I am not a bible thumper, but I do choose to believe in God. Does that make me a strong person, perhaps because I have an external source I can reach out to, versus the doomsday physical world. I believe, and that is faith. Does that make you a weaker person? No, once again that is choice, how do you know how something feels or is, if you do not believe?

It's equivalent to painting a beautiful picture yet no one can see it.

[Kat]

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fonud the guy

http://www.myspace.com/godthecreater2006

[Jibgolly]

Re: God

surely with all the donation trays in all the churches in all the world he makes more than $250,000

[Garrick]

Re: God

you got it wrong katkich, it's this guy: http://www.bobsagetisgod.com/

[88Mariner]

Re: God

without an objective definition of complexity, how can one come to that conclusion?

[BeachBum]

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To say you don't believe in God is like saying that for every action there really isn't an opposite and equal reaction. By this I mean we can definitely see the presense of evil all around us. Look at society. People are losing the minds. If you believe that evil exists in this world you Must believe that a higher being exists.

When you state that science has proven we have been around far longer than 2,000 years, well lets see. You can only rationalize a day or a year in the terms of fatality because that is the one thing you can be certain of. In this I mean man writes of God's existence for 2,000+ years and puts those years in terms that he understands which is a daily or yearly calender.

God is an all knowing everbeing presence who has always been and always will be. In this rationalization it is to difficult to for the human brain to truly understand eternity. We only know things in the terms of years. So what if in the terms of our eternal God, 1,000 years equaled one day and a year was 360,000 years because he knew he had to help us understand his time scale. Taking this is to consideration, can you rationaly say there is no God just because science has proven man has existed for 1000's of years, NO. We do not know god's time table and do not have all the answers. If we had all the answers, why would we need to have faith in a higher being? We would be God.

Secondly, who's to say that the 2000 years isn't really the truth as we understand it to day. If there is a higher power that is righteous and almighty, you must believe in the higher power of evil and gloom. I mean come on one of the brightest scientist of our times said to every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. This being the case, whose to say that he is not filling the earth with deceit and mockery of our lord to win a few souls his way.