God

[lilsensa]

Re: God

my pleasure





(hmn, I need an avatar)

That's awesome.

[sammwalk]

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THE fundamental phenomenon that leads people to believe in gods (and all such superstitious nonsense) is the unwillingness to accept one's lack of understanding. Instead of simply ending one's own internal dialogue by saying "I don't understand" and calling it a day, people make judgments and draw conclusions from things they don't sufficiently understand. When a person or group has already made a judgment or established a false conclusion based on their imaginations, others are more likely to trust them (or at least entertain or consider their opinions) than retreat to a position of non-judgment or non-knowledge.

(a comet appears over the course of a few days)
primitive guy 1: "Did you see that thing in the sky? I don't know what it is. Well, it's not doing anything, so I guess I'll mind my own business."
primitive guy 2: "No- Harry says it's an omen. He says that the gods must be angry at us."
primitive guy 1: (thinks) "I don't know if that's true, but what if Harry's right?"

We can also combine this with the natural weakness many people have to believe and follow authority figures, especially concerning such seemingly important subjects. Many people don't trust their internal common sense as much as they trust established authority figures. They sadly do not sufficiently question the justification of someone else claiming to have such understanding, especially from positions of power.

Amplifying the problem is the pressure that we put on authority figures to have the answers. If they were to, instead, admit to not knowing if god exists, or why there are storms, or why all the crops have died, or why there are diseases, etc, they would lose power to rivals that claimed to have knowledge. Thus it is a cycle that is very hard (and in some cases, nearly impossible, like in the Middle East) to break.

[kittymarmalade]

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^^Thanks for keeping it on the real yo.

my pleasure





(hmn, I need an avatar)

[kittymarmalade]

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What good is feeling depressed? Just don't do it. There's no reason to be like that so it is a waste of time.

Not true. A good dose of depression & introspection can be a great eye-opener for someone who is unable to understand why they're generally not contented in life.

Of course, they could end up killing themselves when they don't like what their little epiphany of knowledge brings them, but hey-ho .. then Darwin claims another one.

[lilsensa]

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^^Thanks for keeping it on the real yo.

[kittymarmalade]

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but nothing can convince me otherwise that there is definately a spiritual realm/ parrallel universe where a war is being raged for each and every one of us.

then you seem to have a rather large amount of self-importance.

we're too busy speculating about nonsense to be focusing on developing ourselves into something of any worth.

myself included.

it's all about the number 42 though. for realz yo.

[Miguel]

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life for sure is harder for some than others, but all in all, we are here to learn. although i think nowadays we rather be entertained

[lilsensa]

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^^^ you must expect something at the end of it , dont you ?

Not really...Ask anyone I know, and they will tell you that I have never asked anything in return from them...Not that you would know anyone I know personally, but...

Try harder.

No!

[toasty]

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Isnt that contradictory ??
- "on some level, we have some control over our own situation."
and
"Ever notice how some people seem to have nothing but good fortune, while others seem to constantly be fighting adversity? I don't think that's the result of chance."

If 'we' have control then it cant be "some unseen force or energy that guides things," doesnt it have to be one or the other?

just wondering - not trying to be an ass.
(I dont need to try)

Probably seems like it the way I described it. I guess the implication is that people either consciously or subconsciously tap into this force, such that we sort of of steer our own ship -- that's why I said "guide" as opposed to "control."

Point is, you rarely see people who are constantly negative about their situation getting the windfalls, and vice-versa. Sure, bad things happen to good people all the time, but in the aggregate, I do think that our outlook and actions can have a way of drawing like things towards us. Maybe it's as simple as our perspective altering what we view as "good" or "bad." Who knows, certainly not me.

[beanzncheez]

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I do believe in doing good and helping others...Expecting nothing, and just being the best human being that I can possibly be...That's what I believe in.

Try harder.

[beanzncheez]

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"Feelings" were created by women to distort man's view. Think about it. What good is feeling depressed? Just don't do it. There's no reason to be like that so it is a waste of time.

[Kamal]

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I think God's name is Chester

... and he just got arrested in Nevada 3 days ago for appearing in a self made child porn video

my scientific side doesn't believe in God as an "entity" watching over us, waiting to pass judgment on us the day we die and reach his doorstep. What we do on this earth (good and evil) comes back to us in this very life and in itself becomes our heaven / hell. Short and sweet .... Karma is the result of your actions that eventually comes back to create the positive and negative "events" we life to face.

From where have we come? since we are here today, there must a supreme "creator" somewhere out there that we all call God but he is definitely not in any of the photos we have depicted him as, on this planet.

Perhaps a much much older civilization (perhaps millions of years older) with all its acquired technology and sciences has figured out a way to do "God-like" miracles, travel the zillions of light years of this universe like "angels" and are planting the seeds of life across inhabitable planets everywhere they can and move on, never looking back. Thereafter, evolution takes its course and life continues on.

As nick mentioned earlier on this thread, the world we live in is just one of the dimensions that maybe here because of an outstretched imaginative reason I mentioned above. There are so many other dimensions that we cannot even fathom to understand, each one of them having an even more far fetched reason for its existence.

I guess death in itself will eventually become your next birth where you'll probably learn so much more of why you were here, or why are you going where you are next.

[Huggie Smiles]

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With that said, I don't necessarily think that things in the universe are completely random. I guess I have a sense that there is some unseen force or energy that guides things, and that on some level, we have some control over our own situation. Ever notice how some people seem to have nothing but good fortune, while others seem to constantly be fighting adversity? I don't think that's the result of chance. To the extent that there's really no rational explanation for any of that, and that it's probably not rational for me to think of it, some people might equate that in a belief in a higher power. I'm not sure where I come down on that, honestly.

Isnt that contradictory ??
- "on some level, we have some control over our own situation."
and
"Ever notice how some people seem to have nothing but good fortune, while others seem to constantly be fighting adversity? I don't think that's the result of chance."

If 'we' have control then it cant be "some unseen force or energy that guides things," doesnt it have to be one or the other?

just wondering - not trying to be an ass.
(I dont need to try)

[picklemonkey]

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I think God's name is Chester

[88Mariner]

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^ if we use the biblical definition of 'know', in reference to the oft repeated phrase that "god 'knew' me before he created me".....there is a strong argument that our souls have been inappropriately touched without permission.