Do you own a Gun?? US citizens

[Life on Other Planets AKA Johns]

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The craziest incident that I think about on occasion is the shootings that took place out of the trunk of that guy's car in Virginia Beach in 2003...people wouldn't leave their homes and were afraid to get gas, that was just wild.

yeah i remember this. it was to back guys and the had a hole in the boot or something. I was wondering what happend to them?

[lilsensa]

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Fao all in this thread. A gun owner who is not educated about guns and/or gun safety will more than likely become one of the statistics that you are speaking of.

Agree?

That being said, any idiot can own a gun, or shoot one for that matter.

If you aren't a responsible gun owner, someone is going to get hurt.

Most people, when they get a gun, think that it is alright to be the tough guy and flaunt that they have one. That is when they get killed by someone else who thinks that they have to defend themselves due to the fact that you just waived a gun at them.

If you own a gun, and do not have a concealed weapons permit, that gun should be locked in a safe in your house and kept there.

If you do have a concealed weapons permit, there is a good chance that you have taken some of the knowledge from the concealed weapons course, and are a safer gun owner.

Guns do not kill people, stupid people with guns kill people.

[minimal]

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I have a Fass 90 (5.6mm machine gun) in my bedroom, after doing the obligatory military service they give us no choice but to take our weapons home with us so we can use it in case of war. I live in Switzerland...
I believe owing a weapon in a modern civilized society is absolute bullshit. The righ to bear arms was conceived at the dawn of the american society which has evolved to become a completely different society.

[DIDI]

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If you have a gun you are far more likely to be killed by one, and it is frequently your own.
Gun Homicides are considerably higher in households that have guns.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/23/he...irearms&st=nyt

http://www.vpc.org/press/0602rank.htm

America is so far in front of the rest of the developed world in gun homicides it looks far more likely they are being used to commit murder rather than protect any one.

Personally I can't see how anyone in a country with those sort of statistics can defend gun ownership. It has a legitimate role in sports, but you are kidding yourself if you think they are a good defence. You are more likely to be supplying a criminal with a weapon to be used against you.

[DIDI]

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guns dont kill people, people kill people.

[mnbvcxz]

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Well that's silly.

[shosh]

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Poor argument. It's a law not a definition of freedom. I guess by legalizing murder and child porn you are more "free" too. Good luck with that.

guns allow us to be free.

go read the 2nd amendment

http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=2nd+amendment

[mnbvcxz]

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Poor argument. It's a law not a definition of freedom. I guess by legalizing murder and child porn you are more "free" too. Good luck with that.

[shosh]

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strong misconception of freedom

thank god you live in australia, worst country in europe

[mnbvcxz]

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Let's agree to disagree.

Just don't pop a cap in my ass, "yo"

[i!!ustrious]

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^ so do you wan't a cookie or a medal?

ban or no ban, people always find a way, regardless.

and europe ain't the tumultuous salad/melting pot that america is, so that's like comparing apples and oranges in most respects.

[mnbvcxz]

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tons of guns, use em often.

bravo. care to make any more sweeping generalizations?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7630969.stm

Ok, one out of how many in comparison? You get my point.

And that point is... if you suddenly remove the ban on guns in Europe, are you going to tell me crime won't increase? Gun crime won't increase? It WILL have some effect, and that effect won't be a decline. It's common sense.

don't get your undies in a bunch dooood.

It's very frustrating because then I have to reply to something for no reason. That's all

[i!!ustrious]

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I never said America wasn't. Shosh said I don't know (or can't enjoy) freedom. Please read the thread before you comment.



When someone can turn up to a store and buy an AK47 off the shelf, something is seriously wrong. People in Europe survive without guns, so why can't you? Europe also don't have school shootings and their gun violence in general is far lower. Coincidence? Sure, they're still be violence. It's certainly not the solution, but it is a step in the right direction.

By the way, how often have you had to use your gun? My guess 0. So, in reality they're not so useful. Only to the twisted fucks and crims out there who use it proactively.

don't get your undies in a bunch dooood.

tons of guns, use em often.

bravo. care to make any more sweeping generalizations?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7630969.stm

[mnbvcxz]

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o'rly? if i wanted to blow your head off, i'd get a gun

you'll get beaten or stabbed to death bro

if you had a gun you could defend yourself though...

Yes, but they could also shoot me. Ridiculous comment.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/firearm-murder-rate-drops/2008/12/25/1229998662010.html

whats next, are they going to take away your knives too?

brb cutting my steak with a butter knife

Of course it is. It's all relative. Statistics are obviously going to favour another weapon when the other is removed (or heavily reduced) from the equation. Something has to be on top. I'd much rather it be stabbings than shootings.

Stupid article. Sydney people... pffft

[mnbvcxz]

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lol at "australia is a free country" what is america then andyniko?

I never said America wasn't. Shosh said I don't know (or can't enjoy) freedom. Please read the thread before you comment.

shit, i'll go down in a blazing glory to defend my right to bear arms any day. it is the most vital right we have in this cruel and violent world; it would be foolish to roll over with fainthearted inaction due to sheltered indifference, when the time calls. imo, life is a battlefield -- be prepared and stay on point -- or get spit out.

my pops is a vet and our family is against all violence -- no doubt... but even we keep a small amount of firepower for last resort protection, and the right to defend our individual freedoms. guerrilla warfare ftw.

When someone can turn up to a store and buy an AK47 off the shelf, something is seriously wrong. People in Europe survive without guns, so why can't you? Europe also don't have school shootings and their gun violence in general is far lower. Coincidence? Sure, they're still be violence. It's certainly not the solution, but it is a step in the right direction.

By the way, how often have you had to use your gun? My guess 0. So, in reality they're not so useful. Only to the twisted fucks and crims out there who use it proactively.