you know what's astonishing?

[chunky]

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Have you noticed that when ever the government don't want to give you information they always claim it would compromise national security

[chunky]

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So 9/11 was orchestrated without any paper trail or emails or phone calls of any kind?

Or have the powers that be kept all those documents, phone calls, and emails a complete secret?

Well they are keeping loads of photos secret that could clear this mater up fairly quick. Are there any documents, phone calls, and emails from the supposed terrorist regarding this. Or would that comprise national security.

[res0nat0r]

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cia

[floridaorange]

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So 9/11 was orchestrated without any paper trail or emails or phone calls of any kind?

Or have the powers that be kept all those documents, phone calls, and emails a complete secret?

[chunky]

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Sounds like a qualified expert to me. The booms are quite accurate. Confirmed.

Not the only witness to describe the events like this. Remember the fireman from the French Documentary.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2032865563019209801#

Or the hundreds of first responders testimonies that where kept secret.

[res0nat0r]

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Sounds like a qualified expert to me. The booms are quite accurate. Confirmed.

[vinnie97]

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Oops, guess this was just another eyewitness imagining things:

According to Prison Planet:

Twin towers collapse eyewitness Paul Lemos clearly describes how he witnessed bombs take down the World Trade Center in yet another revealing piece of evidence that NIST was forced to release as part of a recent FOIA request. As we reported in our previous articles, is it really a coincidence that almost every video NIST sat on for years contained bombshell eyewitness testimony of explosives bringing down the towers and Building 7?

[floridaorange]

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[chunky]

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Anyone catch Demolition: The Tallest Tower on TV tonight 380ft tower came down in 13 seconds

[chunky]

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Sort of off subject but does anyone know the name of the music playing at the end of the film

[CircleGuy]

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The thing is...whatever people say about drugs being bad for your health etc. Society as a whole and the human species was orientated towards so much better aims when everyone was getting hight and dropping acid. This is something I have been thinking about last night...also another thing I realised is how self centred the western society is.

is it possible that those who did drugs at that time viewed the world in a more positive light because of the effect of opiates on their brain? issues and problems have always been around, just depends how you look at them. heh just a thought

[i!!ustrious]

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move to the states homie! you're more than welcome out here on the west coast.

strange as it may seem, the average man here is starting to wake up, re-educate themselve's, and expanding their conscious awareness with self-initiating emancipation. you'd be surprised. but then again, we brush shoulders with millions of the "living dead" all day too...

[Shpira]

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Shpira just out of curiosity, what part of the world are you living in these days?

London mate... unfortunately

[trick12]

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The thing is...whatever people say about drugs being bad for your health etc. Society as a whole and the human species was orientated towards so much better aims when everyone was getting hight and dropping acid. This is something I have been thinking about last night...also another thing I realised is how self centred the western society is. "We" focus on our selves and seem to believe that our social order is the end of all social orders the dogs bollocks...all those documentaries about the end of civilisation...and human empire and bla bla...when in reality it is quite possible that this is the end of the Western Empire rather than end of the Human empire...i am not sure if you watch Nat Geo and History and all those "cutting edge" documentaries.
There are possibilities for huge advance but its profit orientated rather than innovation and improvement focussed. There are things that we NEED and things that make money. It seems that money always takes precedence over human need.
I honestly believe that if we leave things the way they are i.e. let the markets guide our advance we will all perish in one way or another. We will either die from starvation, disease or we will become virtual slaves of debt.
I am not optimistic in the least...people don't read, people don't think...a bunch of drones and internet is used for porn and reading mainstream media. No internet revolution. People are chasing after fabricated dreams designed to keep them in a consumerism loop.

thats some big ideas here that i agree with most of, throughout civilization this has been occurring but with different looks and languages and in different places all over the world, look how many empires way bigger than what we see now had disappeared and long gone such as ancient Egyptians and romans,etc...human beings were created with the love for the world and greed to all its goods, so when the essentials become simply there we move on to another as in the necessity pyramid. many people no longer have the ability to socialize and people judge each other by what they own and classify them and based on this they deal with them. the internet is def a two sided weapon.

the key is seeing this world as it is and looking thru all the fake things that make it seem something its not, everything is temporary in this world and whats shiny now will be dull tomorrow and whose strong now will be weak tomorrow and there will always be a replacement because thats how it is just like the pic posted here today a carrot tomorrow a hershey bar with a different person and so on.

its strange that the only true reality in this world that no one can deny is death, its good to have things to be part of our life but not make it the purpose of our whole life, esp knowing that were not taking anything with us....man i love nature and the hippy life, real connections and clear eye sight occur, its like seeing this world naked.

[floridaorange]

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Shpira just out of curiosity, what part of the world are you living in these days?