you know what's astonishing?

[runningman]

Re: you know what's astonishing?

no dude it wasn't balloons

[Shpira]

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i heard ya bro... but come on, enough with all this pessimism and faint-hearted-ness. i'm sure you've seen & read more than enough(like oh so many truthseekers, cynics, fear mongers, doomsayers, and so forth); but still, that's only part of the equation. we live in some pretty fucking amazing times -- brimming with possibilities for huge advance, as well as ripe opportunities for the acceleration of our race.

The thing is...whatever people say about drugs being bad for your health etc. Society as a whole and the human species was orientated towards so much better aims when everyone was getting hight and dropping acid. This is something I have been thinking about last night...also another thing I realised is how self centred the western society is. "We" focus on our selves and seem to believe that our social order is the end of all social orders the dogs bollocks...all those documentaries about the end of civilisation...and human empire and bla bla...when in reality it is quite possible that this is the end of the Western Empire rather than end of the Human empire...i am not sure if you watch Nat Geo and History and all those "cutting edge" documentaries.
There are possibilities for huge advance but its profit orientated rather than innovation and improvement focussed. There are things that we NEED and things that make money. It seems that money always takes precedence over human need.
I honestly believe that if we leave things the way they are i.e. let the markets guide our advance we will all perish in one way or another. We will either die from starvation, disease or we will become virtual slaves of debt.
I am not optimistic in the least...people don't read, people don't think...a bunch of drones and internet is used for porn and reading mainstream media. No internet revolution. People are chasing after fabricated dreams designed to keep them in a consumerism loop.

[vinnie97]

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Well his election wasn't exactly legitimate to start with, it was a mistake. George Bush was basically the candidate that half of VOTERS not Americans but "Voters" felt they had the most in common with. Because unfortunately that's what got votes... "Bush" was the candidate American's could see themselves having a beer with.

Then we got attacked and some of us woke up and decided it's probably best we don't vote for the candidate we would want to have a beer with rather a candidate who is smart and can actually do something in office.

Talk about a scandal... THIS IS A SCANDAL:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programme...ht/3956129.stm

Right, the public was bamboozled by the puppet that followed Bushy also, by empty campaign slogans (Yes We Can, which actually appears in US Commie party propaganda from the early 80s) and a host of lies that weak minds believed in earnest (entitlement fanatics seriously rocked the vote).

Voting scandals are also not unique to one party or another. For instance, that nob Al Franken had to undergo multiple recounts to procure enough fugitives and dead guys to beat his opponent. To say nothing of the dead, the criminals and the multiple voting that transpired across much of the rest of the 2008 elections under ACORN and SEIU's guidance. Then, there's Holder and the DOJ turning a blind eye to the Black Panthers intimidation scandal that took place in Philly on election day, NOT investigating clear evidence of said voter intimidation.

To contribute to the topic at hand: No way in hell do I believe the 911 commission's report was completely truthful and forthcoming. Too much money mysteriously changed hands leading up to this event and the Mossad agents captured the following month in Mexico while attempting to blow up Parliament is just another unexplained loose end connected to 911 (Mossad agents were reportedly and allegedly seen celebrating in NYC when the buildings collapsed). Apologies if this was already brought up.

[floridaorange]

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^haha, her face looks funked paused like that

I don't recruit.. Remember I don't have any friends.

Maybe outside of the music but we do share a common bond when it comes to our passion for the music.

Hell that's politics for you though, you know?

[res0nat0r]

Re: you know what's astonishing?

balloons

[runningman]

Re: you know what's astonishing?

I don't recruit.. Remember I don't have any friends.

Did you see those UFO's over NYC though?

[floridaorange]

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look out lucky, RM is in recruitment mode again...

[runningman]

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That's the spirit iLL!! It ain't over and there ARE things that can be done to change the current course.

[i!!ustrious]

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i heard ya bro... but come on, enough with all this pessimism and faint-hearted-ness. i'm sure you've seen & read more than enough(like oh so many truthseekers, cynics, fear mongers, doomsayers, and so forth); but still, that's only part of the equation. we live in some pretty fucking amazing times -- brimming with possibilities for huge advance, as well as ripe opportunities for the acceleration of our race.

[Shpira]

Re: you know what's astonishing?

No faith in humanity whatsoever. The sixties are long gone and hippies have sold out for a single cold coin or become introvert loners. There is no compassion for the fellow men and people as a species have become numb to the suffering and obsessed with possessions.
"whoever dies with most gadgets wins"

[CircleGuy]

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[floridaorange]

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Bob you're a wise man of few words.

[bobjuice]

Re: you know what's astonishing?

astonishing

[floridaorange]

Re: you know what's astonishing?

^Everyone's entitled to their individual and unique perception.

[chunky]

Re: you know what's astonishing?

Bizarrely going back to the original purpose of this thread The Zeitgeist movie had a quote towards the end.

The old appeals to racial sexual religious chauvinism, to rabid nationalist forbear are beginning not to work, a new consciousness sees the earth as a single organism and an organism at war with itself is doomed.

And this is the point I have no faith in. I think nothing has changed.