Bin Laden's Pictures to be released.

[thebanned1]

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So because he has a smaller amount in his pants you are lead to believe that it must be somehow more volatile. But you have no evidence of this? I'm saying I reckon they had just the right amount to cause an effect and nothing more. Funny you bring up the printer cartridges, they never went off either. Just enough to cause a stir. Is this really the MO of a highly trained and funded terrorist organisation. If it is I for one am not impressed. I fact I've seen better performance at work from people who spend half their day in the toilet and the other half exchanging extreme porn and happy slapping videos on their mobile phone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triacetone_triperoxide

this was the stuff they found on the pants bomber, a thing i touched on earlier comes into play here, what i touched on was the someone who i presume is highly trained is feeding these guys the info on how to cook up shit like this.. if you or i were to type into google right now " how do i make Triacetone triperoxide" the chances are your ip would be flagged straight away and i,m not sure on this but i,m guessing you would be put on some sort of level of watch list also u don't really walk straight into the library and find a book on how to cook this shit up so walking into a place with knowledge to make shit like this is dodgy unless you are known...if the so called pants bomber did this then suspicion would automatically arise, it would be like u and ur wife walking into a well known gay bar and kissing each other in front of everyone, everyone in the place would be like "wtf are they doing in here"...this kinda brings me back to the "reach of al qaeda" part.

he was probably following "orders" set by people who are higher up the ranking and if this guy was responsible for the actual manufacturing of the compound he would of been given a recipe and instructions on how to do it ( although there is no proof of this ) ... if not then this compound would of been made in some sort of bomb factory where ever that maybe... if i was a terrorist in a bomb factory not wanting to draw attention to myself would i go out somewhere with a little of the compound to blow it up just to make sure it worked ? NO, it would draw attention to me! i think u kinda under estimate just how dodgy this is m8

[res0nat0r]

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^I'm not actually...they were just a couple of idiots really.

[chunky]

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the last couple rounds of 'terror' were just a couple of jackasses

I don't know if you are being sarcastic but I agree with your statement

[res0nat0r]

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the last couple rounds of 'terror' were just a couple of jackasses

[chunky]

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pot shots @ people LOL come on man that's crazy, what kill ten people max before ur caught? hardly going to make a name for urself by doing amateur shit like this on the world stage are u and of course doing shit like this is going to draw lots and lots of members to joining up for the cause.

Really. that's exactly what the IRA did. Gun a few people down, disappear of the map, come back again in a few months and do it again. Everyone is shit scared to leave the house. Do you reckon training people to train people to train people draws lots of people to your cause?

[chunky]

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they are passing skills to others who join the group, you cant exactly have a group of completely untrained terrorists causing havoc across the world can u ? planning ? infiltrating ?

Haven't you contradicted yourself here? one minute your telling us they are trained they you state that you can't have untrained terrorist causing havoc. So you reckon they are just passing the skills on down a long line of people in case one day one of them decides to actually do something. Have you any evidence to support your claim that they have infiltrated somewhere. They have had 15 year to get there shit together, how long does it take.

[chunky]

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do u not think there is a huge difference in size with a belt filled with c4 and a pair of underwear filled with another smaller mount of explosive material... this kind of tells u about how volatile a certain chemical can be, c4 is easy to get minors use it etc ( i may be wrong on that tbh ) but the chemicals which are used in ur so called printer cartridges and shoe bombs and also underwear bombs are much much more difficult to get a hold of, all you have to do on a plane is have a sufficient amount to blow a small hole in the walls of the plane and if its @ 30000 feet everyone on it is completely fucked ( remember planes are pressurised )

So because he has a smaller amount in his pants you are lead to believe that it must be somehow more volatile. But you have no evidence of this? I'm saying I reckon they had just the right amount to cause an effect and nothing more. Funny you bring up the printer cartridges, they never went off either. Just enough to cause a stir. Is this really the MO of a highly trained and funded terrorist organisation. If it is I for one am not impressed. I fact I've seen better performance at work from people who spend half their day in the toilet and the other half exchanging extreme porn and happy slapping videos on their mobile phone.

[thebanned1]

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LOL @ this whole thread...

Shpira... this is an exact example of why the politics forum was closed, if you don't have something constructive or objective to say them why are you posting in the thread ? because it seems to me like your just trying to wind people up!!!

[thebanned1]

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ok watched it, knew what it was going to be like from just watching the first 2 minutes

ok a couple of things that stood out to be was the mention on a dirty bomb, ok in itself it might not be a potentially lethal attack in itself but i don't think you are seeing what's potential in the future and i think blair hit the nail in the head...its clear to me that if al qaeda are getting potentially access to nuclear material now then what is the potential of them getting something a little stronger more deadly in another 10-15-20 years of radicalism? i don't know how many times i,ve heard the government talk about protecting our childrens future and i think this is a prime example of what they are talking about.

al qaeda don't exist its all in the imagination of politicians well they kinda fucked themselves up a bit in their own video buy saying that "al qaeda was just an idea in the mind of young radical muslims ".. just thinking of that send shivers down my spine, the idea is there and its potentially a dangerous one no matter if anything has been acted upon it or not... i believe its there and its dangerous!!!

the video of disney land and the sketch drawing that was found under the couch...if it was what the FBI believed it was then the people that made both are hardly going to put stickers on both labelling them saying " highly classified information - al qaeda plans " .. i think this was justified action by the FBI as terrorists are not exactly known to not have done this in the past, the IRA for one used tourists videos of london to plan attacks.

what about the guys that were known to have been in afghanistan ? i don't quite understand this bit tbh, i mean if i were to go to ireland and hang about with the real IRA for a while and they trained me in whatever wouldn't you consider me to be dangerous ? i mean if i really wanted to do that and did it ask yourself both why i did it and secondly why i moved to a foreign country where these people were seen to be the enemy ? this takes me back to a couple of things i said, were all humans and we make mistakes and also u,ll never really truly understand paranoia until you have experienced it yourself.

[floridaorange]

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LOL @ this whole thread...

Stop trolling

[Shpira]

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LOL @ this whole thread...

[thebanned1]

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The video was made by the BBC and much of the footage was done by reporters who spent time with Bin Laden. Also you have made the same misstake as Running Man again. You have appliy the same argrument you are using to justsify your opinon and saying I can not use the same.



I will be back on this when I get home. I'm not allowed to post much at work

just because its on the BBC doesn't mean to say its a correct opinion on the matter m8 and yes they may have spent time with bin laden in the making of the video but i,m sure u might look favourably on someone who has show u good hospitality

i dont understand what u are meaning when u are saying i made the same mistake... were not arguing here!! were basically as someone said to me last night "throwing idea's around" and yes there is a difference in opinion.

p.s. i,m gonna watch the vid

[thebanned1]

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You don't live what you preach.

i dont watch tv now for the exact same reasons as i previously stated, if there is a story that interests me i,ll read up on it, its easier to spot inconsistencies in a story and u learn from that what they do know and what they are fabricating because if u watch say the 6 oclock news each day then that means they tell u a story and 24 hours later they can tell u another thing and u,ll have forgot the minute details of the story u were told yesterday. just after bin ladens death i went to a bbc website and there was a story on it ( sorry no longer have the link ) but it had several tabs with different stories on the same page, i began to read the first page and when i had read that i clicked the tab to goto the next page and they were telling me one thing on the first page and telling me the exact opposite on the next page, clicked the next tab and read the next page and again they were telling me a different story yet again about the same thing.

at the end of the day m8 whats to stop u from getting a job as a reporter if u have the qualifications ? nothing !!! each on of us are equal and were only human, same with politicians at the end of the day they are only human, they will be given information and told "look u cant tell the public this" so they will say ok i,ve been briefed and when asked about it they will tell u a story about it as much as they can, 24 hours later and they have had more information put into their head thus distracting them from what they said previously and someone asks them another question, they forget what they said initially and said something different..

imo this is how many conspiracy theories are born because people analyse what info is shown to them by who ever and inconsistencies in the story are found thus making the people that are telling the stories look like liars, just because a politician has told u a little fib doesn't mean to say he's an outright liar.. i,m sure if they could tell u in great detail the info they have on events like 9/11 they would but they cant for obvious reasons...to give another example of what i mean... i,ve been talking in this thread now for a good what ? 15 pages ? i cant even remember what i said 5 pages ago and i,m sure i,ve probably contradicted myself @ some point...

u think my opinion is bias ? i don't, i,m open to idea's but i will tell u right now i,ll look into things in a different way from most of u!

[chunky]

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chunky ok think about what you have just said about there being lack of evidence and then you posted a video doc, at the end of the day m8 the people who made this doc are just like me and you even though they have probably researched it as far as they can! they have little evidence either and although they may research things a little bit more than u or i do... its obvious here that mass confusion has settled in when describing things like this because of the lack of publicized info for security reasons so its obvious to me that what little info we do have is causing different people to react in different ways...this convo u and i are having should surely testify to that lol... this is why i no longer watch video's like this because @ the end of the day its just selling a story what whatever gain the producers want. as the old saying goes...don't always believe what u see on the tv. its always a bias opinion either way.

The video was made by the BBC and much of the footage was done by reporters who spent time with Bin Laden. Also you have made the same misstake as Running Man again. You have appliy the same argrument you are using to justsify your opinon and saying I can not use the same.



I will be back on this when I get home. I'm not allowed to post much at work

[Shpira]

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don't always believe what u see on the tv. its always a bias opinion either way

You don't live what you preach.