Coronavirus

[thebanned1]

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it was huggie that sent me that lol

[DIDI]

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I'm still laughing !

[thebanned1]

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[sbando]

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I can't get enough of people posting Joy Division - Isolation and The Police - Don't Stand So Close To Me.

Seriously, stop it.

[DIDI]

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Hahahaha!!

[kolakao]

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coronavirus is hoax, it's more about economy and pushing new law to control people more and more

[floridaorange]

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oh ffs

[DIDI]

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oh ffs

x 2

[Huggie Smiles]

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i would post a facepalm but.. you know....

[REDROCK]

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Similar to 9/11 or Katrina or the horrendous Australian fires - some people literally think anything that's massively bad is a conspiracy. I'm not sure if it's because they can't digest such devastation is a part of life - or because they are just the paranoid type. I lean toward the latter though.

[feather]

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Curious..... don't you still have to pat dry or do you just air dry?

Probably TMI but the spray from the bidet can oscillate for a more thorough clean, and there an (ineffectual) air dryer as DIDI mentioned. I use a square of toilet paper to confirm the all-clean and towel dry with my bath towel. It's not like we stopped buying toilet paper but we definitely use way less. Also, the bidets generally have a front spray for women too. Oh and the best thing about these Japanese-stye bidets—the seats are warm and they feel great in winter.

[feather]

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coronavirus is hoax, it's more about economy and pushing new law to control people more and more

While I don't doubt the virus is real, I also don't doubt there will be opportunists who use this to indeed push new laws. Just look at that Patroit Act.

Here we go: DOJ seeks new emergency powers amid coronavirus pandemic - POLITICO

The Justice Department has quietly asked Congress for the ability to ask chief judges to detain people indefinitely without trial during emergencies — part of a push for new powers that comes as the novel coronavirus spreads throughout the United States.

Documents reviewed by POLITICO detail the department’s requests to lawmakers on a host of topics, including the statute of limitations, asylum and the way court hearings are conducted. POLITICO also reviewed and previously reported on documents seeking the authority to extend deadlines on merger reviews and prosecutions.

A Justice Department spokesperson declined to comment on the documents.

The move has tapped into a broader fear among civil liberties advocates and Donald Trump’s critics — that the president will use a moment of crisis to push for controversial policy changes. Already, he has cited the pandemic as a reason for heightening border restrictions and restricting asylum claims. He has also pushed for further tax cuts as the economy withers, arguing it would soften the financial blow to Americans. And even without policy changes, Trump has vast emergency powers that he could deploy right now to try to slow the coronavirus outbreak.

The DOJ requests — which are unlikely to make it through a Democratic-led House — span several stages of the legal process, from initial arrest to how cases are processed and investigated.

In one of the documents, the department proposed that Congress grant the attorney general power to ask the chief judge of any district court to pause court proceedings “whenever the district court is fully or partially closed by virtue of any natural disaster, civil disobedience, or other emergency situation.”

The proposal would also grant those top judges broad authority to pause court proceedings during emergencies. It would apply to “any statutes or rules of procedure otherwise affecting pre-arrest, post-arrest, pre-trial, trial, and post-trial procedures in criminal and juvenile proceedings and all civil process and proceedings,” according to draft legislative language the department shared with Congress. In making the case for the change, the DOJ wrote that individual judges can currently pause proceedings during emergencies but that their proposal would make sure all judges in any particular district could handle emergencies “in a consistent manner.”

The request raised eyebrows because of its potential implications for habeas corpus — the constitutional right to appear before a judge after arrest and seek release.

“Not only would it be a violation of that, but it says ‘affecting pre-arrest,’” said Norman L. Reimer, executive director of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers. “So that means you could be arrested and never brought before a judge until they decide that the emergency or the civil disobedience is over. I find it absolutely terrifying. Especially in a time of emergency, we should be very careful about granting new powers to the government.”

Reimer said the possibility of chief judges suspending all court rules during an emergency without a clear end in sight was deeply disturbing.

“That is something that should not happen in a democracy,” he said.

The department also asked Congress to pause the statute of limitations for criminal investigations and civil proceedings during national emergencies, “and for one year following the end of the national emergency,” according to the draft legislative text.

Trump recently declared the coronavirus crisis a national emergency.

Another controversial request: The department is looking to change the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure in some cases to expand the use of videoconference hearings and to let some of those hearings happen without defendants’ consent, according to the draft legislative text.

“Video teleconferencing may be used to conduct an appearance under this rule,” read a draft of potential new language for Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 5(f), crossing out the phrase “if the defendant consents.”

“Video teleconferencing may be used to arraign a defendant,” read draft text of rule 10(c), again striking out the phrase “if the defendant consents.”

Reimer said forcing people to have hearings over video rather than in person would threaten civil liberties.

“If it were with the consent of the accused person it would be fine,” he said. “But if it’s not with the consent of the accused person, it’s a terrible road to go down. We have a right to public trials. People have a right to be present in court.”

The department also wants Congress to change the law to explicitly say that people with COVID-19 — the illness caused by the novel coronavirus — are not included among those who may apply for asylum. And the department asked for the same change regarding people who are “subject to a presidential proclamation suspending and limiting the entry of aliens into the United States,” according to the draft legislative language.

Layli Miller-Muro, the CEO of the Tahirih Justice Center, which advocates for women and girls fleeing violence, said the language would block anyone on a presidential travel ban list from seeking asylum in the U.S.

“I think it’s a humanitarian tragedy that fails to recognize that vulnerable people from those countries are among the most persecuted and that protecting them is exactly what the refugee convention was designed to do,” she said.

The asylum request comes as the Trump administration says it will begin denying entry to all migrants illegally crossing the U.S. southern border, including those seeking asylum.

“I hope we come out of this with a sense of oneness, interconnectedness,” Miller-Munro said of the coronavirus pandemic. “Borders can’t protect us. Viruses do not care.”

[DIDI]

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Yeah, it's happening here as well. It would be really interesting for everyone to admit what they thought was real information and it proved to be wrong. Mine was the story that people were hiring buses to go to regional centres and strip the shelvers of the supermarkets Seem like none of the supermarkets heard about it.

[DIDI]

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So Henry Saiz did a livestream and this is what you get when you click on the link

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Not really in the spirit of things at the moment Henry

[Weizy]

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Current state of USA debate on COVID response...

Economists vs. Scientists

Any guess as to who will win?