Space Projects Vs. Starvation - An [ms] debate...

[Kat]

Re: Curiosity has landed



its funny how ppl always have an opinion about something they know shit about

hunger? google "sponsor a child"
how many of you actually do anything?

it pisses me off bc you guys dont do shit but youre first in line to argue about anything there is to argue about
i dont usually participate in arguments and i wont in this one either

go out in the world, make tons of money and do something you want to argue about with it
geez

[tiddles]

Re: Curiosity has landed

Yeah me too, wouldn't have cost anywhere near as much and they may have got some information that was actually usable in the real world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_spin-off_technologies

[DIDI]

Re: Curiosity has landed

Whatever

[res0nat0r]

Ok you have convinced me , let's just give up.

Hmmm...I'm not the one saying give up anything.... Maybe I'm just better at multitasking and think we can work on achieving more than one goal at the same time.

[DIDI]

Re: Curiosity has landed

Ok you have convinced me , let's just give up.

[res0nat0r]

"arbitrary problem like hunger" ??? Are you taking the piss?? That would be really funny if it wasn't so awful !!

Nope. There are a million problems in the world anyone could come up with on any given day that could be considered a problem that should be fixed before going to Mars. So there isn't any point in trying to fix all of the worlds problems first because that only happens in fairy tales. So letting the JPL and NASA folk continue doing something never done before is better than doing nothing because there are always going to be problems back home....that's just how it is unfortunately.

[DIDI]

Re: Curiosity has landed

"arbitrary problem like hunger" ??? Are you taking the piss?? That would be really funny if it wasn't so awful !!

[res0nat0r]

If everyone stopped to try and "solve" some arbitrary problem like hunger....well there would be a lot less human advancement in the world out there as there is now. Every "bad" problem in the world isn't going to be able to be solved first, let along agreed upon being worth solving to ever make something like this a reality. It is a nice and grand gesture, but it doesn't work like that in the real world unfortunately. So the scientists who are working on their own set of problems in their areas of expertise should just keep on it IMO.

[DIDI]

Re: Curiosity has landed

Finding a new home and trashing the current one? Is that what you made of the Mars Exploration Project?

As far as fixing things here on earth, you're making comparisons that don't even belong in the same sentence. Starving people and Space Exploration? Really? Blanketing noble agendas by suffocating other meaningful areas of progress is definitely the way to go. Why don't we fire all the brightest people in the world who have worked hard to get us to witness some of the most remarkable achievements of mankind so we can start feeding the needy.

People are hurting and suffering and injustice happens all over the world, but that should never stop life from moving forward.

From the face of the arguments, everyone is happy to sit and point fingers at others for not doing enough but how much has anything been done on a personal basis and changed things within their immediate vicinity, for the greater good - all it seems to be so far is harping about it on the internet.

This is the kind of of sentiment that affects this board, let's all sit and cry about the world and make sure no progress is achieved because until all the problems are resolved, there's no sense in doing anything meaningful and spending on anything else. And while we're at it, let's all go club and listen to electronic music.

Very cool.

Hahaha!! You do realise you are doing what you are accusing others of doing. No comparison?? What is the common denominator between space exploration an starving people. ?? Money.

So of us aren't hypocrites , we do actually do things, it is a part of our life, we don't feel the need to inappropriately boast about it on music sites.

Last time I looked dying was not considered as moving forward with life, and too many people are doing just that and in ways most of can't imagine. Real progress is about using all this amazing knowledge in a way that benefits ALL . We seem to have some consensus on this. I like the way trick put it.

the only thing more important than science is meaningful science that benefits humans

Just for the record, It's the balance of the way that the money is spent that I object to. We humans need art, adventure, space travel, and of course music of all kinds etc. to inspire us. But we do need to care about our fellow human beings better.

[AchtungBaby!]

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id love to go to space, when i have achieved everything else in life....and i think theres also alot more to explore in earth, its not like all earth secrets have been already discovered.

This.. like the sea!

[floridaorange]

Re: Curiosity has landed

...science that benefits all living things imo.

[trick12]

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id love to go to space, when i have achieved everything else in life....and i think theres also alot more to explore in earth, its not like all earth secrets have been already discovered.

the only thing more important than science is meaningful science that benefits humans

[Kamal]

Re: Curiosity has landed

Finding a new home and trashing the current one? Is that what you made of the Mars Exploration Project?

As far as fixing things here on earth, you're making comparisons that don't even belong in the same sentence. Starving people and Space Exploration? Really? Blanketing noble agendas by suffocating other meaningful areas of progress is definitely the way to go. Why don't we fire all the brightest people in the world who have worked hard to get us to witness some of the most remarkable achievements of mankind so we can start feeding the needy.

People are hurting and suffering and injustice happens all over the world, but that should never stop life from moving forward.

From the face of the arguments, everyone is happy to sit and point fingers at others for not doing enough but how much has anything been done on a personal basis and changed things within their immediate vicinity, for the greater good - all it seems to be so far is harping about it on the internet.

This is the kind of of sentiment that affects this board, let's all sit and cry about the world and make sure no progress is achieved because until all the problems are resolved, there's no sense in doing anything meaningful and spending on anything else. And while we're at it, let's all go club and listen to electronic music.

Very cool.

[bobjuice]

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^there is still a lot of money and a lot of people trying to fix problems here on earth, so that isn't being ignored....

So you fly off and let your kids starve as long as you've left some money in a drawer somewhere (more than enough to feed them, they just need to find it) and you hope that someone else will put some effort into keeping them alive so you don't have to? Is that not the same?

[DIDI]

Re: Curiosity has landed

^^^ But think just how much more could be done. We might even be able to actually fix some of those problems


@ Bobjuice Thank you, couldn't have said it better myself.

It really gets to me that we seem to be looking for a new home because we are trashing the current one.

Kamal I find beauty around me everyday right here on earth. I discover things every day, an ordinary life can have adventures. I don't think most people would consider me unadventurous.


I do understand that people can feel a sense of wonder that these things are happening , but for me the cost is just too high, and I don't mean the actual financial so much as the cost in human sacrifice.

And it does look like outback Australia . Can we get another conspiracy theory happening here.