The reality of depression - Decoded Magazine

[Zover]

Re: The reality of depression - Decoded Magazine

@Zover:
"Suffering from depression is completey different from being sad for some reason."

Google images, depression,
what do you see?

I know this is too easy...

I prefer to read than look at pictures

[barski]

Re: The reality of depression - Decoded Magazine

You don't have a fucking clue, man. When you wake up sorrounded by nurses and police officers and various humanity screaming at you, you'll get it, but just perhaps. If you think that "bipolar" is just a buzz word for hipsters then you're welcomed to my world.

I was talking about depression.
You're talking about bipolar...

[barski]

Re: The reality of depression - Decoded Magazine

@Zover:
"Suffering from depression is completey different from being sad for some reason."


Google images, depression,
what do you see?

I know this is too easy...

[KiwiTollway]

Re: The reality of depression - Decoded Magazine

Recently, I was bucked very, very hard while on a large horse. I managed to stay on because I'm strong & I believe another force helped me. Now, I am hurting pretty much every time I move. I could say "I'm depressed" because I'm hurting and feeling down by the ache. But I'm happy that though the wind was knocked out of me & I was nauseous the rest of the day, I felt pain like nothing before, everything works out for me, I can move my spine just fine, and there is nothing to feel sad about. What I'm experiencing is sadness to due pain & sadness I mostly likely won't ever again do something I used to really enjoy because I saw my life flash in front of me and for a moment I thought it was over. Or, I could be feeling sad for other reasons (thought related). I know this sadness will end because ultimately I'm a happy person all around. You can be a happy, emotionally & physically (bodily) healthy individual and still suffer bouts of depression that have nothing to do with people around you, your thoughts, your surroundings, concentrating on others, helping others, etc. You could even be very, very successful in every area of your life and still deal with clinical depression. It has nothing to do with coping mechanisms (those help with sadness & confusion), if you're depressed you can try the medical community who, like someone else said, it's hit or miss with medication and sometimes that makes things all around worse for you.

Depression is misunderstood, like I said, not to argue with anyone. Sometimes it's ok to say "Hey, can we chat? The sound of your voice would really help me feel better today." and that is not co-dependent, bipolar, depression; it's normal, healthy living, and asking for what you want. Try it or not. You learn who you can count on, who really loves you, and who you can't because they really don't. It happens when you need them the most.

[floridaorange]

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One good habit that does help anyone is a minimum of 30 mins a day of working out. Sure some people are physically unable, and to them I say god bless. But if you are able, make the time, get it in. It's really important. It's not thee answer, as there is no 1 answer. It did help change my life when I was 18 though. Someone older and wiser than I suggested I get a workout plan together and once I did, shit just started getting better for me. When I quit working jobs I thought would make my parents proud, shit got a little better. When I stopped all Liqour intake, shit def got better, though I do still drink the occasional beer. When I read books about shame and family secrets and co-dependancy shit got better.

Some people I know are just too damn smart for their own good. They overthink everything to the point of inaction. They are unable to justify changing habits, thinking about things differently than their parents or what not. They feel and stay stuck for a variety of reasons to no fault of their own or as I said - have physical disabilities making change impossible. God bless'm

[sbando]

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^1000% agree on that bit. I just say that when you suffer from it and all the people around you think you're just weak and lazy, that will make you feel lonely and misunderstood and that seed will eventually grow till it becomes part of the problem.

But I don't want to be too aggressive about it, I simply know from experience that even if your mind is still working -I still have a good job, etc.- most of the time your body will fail you.

[floridaorange]

Re: The reality of depression - Decoded Magazine

I'm also a bit of a dreamer though, which can seem stupid to mor linear/logical thinkers.

[floridaorange]

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100% bro I know it does. Some people it's a lifetime struggle. 2 of my closest friends are bipolar and my dad as well (diagnosed). I'm no stranger to it. I don't mean to sound insensitive or what not. I personally think though that there is a possibility that a child could be susceptible to depression and then raised by a parent with let's say undiagnosed depression, and then by no fault to either party involved the child is diagnosed with depression. It's sort of the nature + nurture taking place. If the same kid is then sent across the country to say California where they learn new ways of being, it's possible they could develop enough coping mechanisms to live with milder lessor more tolerable forms of depression or perhaps outgrow it in some ways. Not saying it's possible or even likely for most people / but it has happened and does happen I am sure. "California" is just an arbitrary place that does have a consciousness movement taking place, but then again so do many other places, just saying.

[sbando]

Re: The reality of depression - Decoded Magazine

Wishful thinking. It depends on the state of your disorder.

[floridaorange]

Re: The reality of depression - Decoded Magazine

Well, for what's worth Kiwi, I was told I had a chemical imbalance and I'm no stranger to meds either. But it's been 10 yrs since all of that. I do believe one can get passed "depression." Bipolar disorder is another story. I still think humans can be very resilient though. Not saying it's up to individuals to just pull themselves out of their depression but circumstances I do believe can play a role. It's unfair to exclude all environmental factors IMHO, but tell me I'm wrong all you want .

[sbando]

Re: The reality of depression - Decoded Magazine

If it's really a disease, it should be possible to prove it, right? (blood sample, brain scan)
Because we (humans) can get into depression, and can get out of depression it seems to me it's just being extremely sad for some reason.

You don't have a fucking clue, man. When you wake up sorrounded by nurses and police officers and various humanity screaming at you, you'll get it, but just perhaps. If you think that "bipolar" is just a buzz word for hipsters then you're welcomed to my world.

[Illuminate]

Re: The reality of depression - Decoded Magazine

So very very true.

I think depression is something we really don't know about. Only 40 % of people respond positively to antidepressants. And some respond very badly. . Of those 40% they don't all respond to the same antidepressants. Which seems to me to very hit and miss. Maybe we haven't found the right chemicals.

A majority of anti depressants when first prescribed have a almost russian roulette with placebos, there is somewhat a hit and miss attempt by doctors to figure out what's going on. It amazes me how complex our bodies can defend to external pressures such as diseases, viruses, but fail to comprehend our own inner demons.

[DIDI]

Re: The reality of depression - Decoded Magazine

Funkagenda should have just got some life coaching from Florida, it would have saved him years of sorrow.

[DIDI]

Re: The reality of depression - Decoded Magazine

Suffering from depression is completey different from being sad for some reason. Most people who suffer from depression never really get cured. You can have the most amazing things happening to you and still suffer from depression. Like anxiiety once it's triggered it never really goes away, people control it through coping strategies. The problem is, there is very little known about the brain and the way it works. The main treatment for depression is medicines that alter the chemistry of the the brain.

So very very true.

I think depression is something we really don't know about. Only 40 % of people respond positively to antidepressants. And some respond very badly. . Of those 40% they don't all respond to the same antidepressants. Which seems to me to very hit and miss. Maybe we haven't found the right chemicals.

[Zover]

Re: The reality of depression - Decoded Magazine

If it's really a disease, it should be possible to prove it, right? (blood sample, brain scan)
Because we (humans) can get into depression, and can get out of depression it seems to me it's just being extremely sad for some reason.

Suffering from depression is completey different from being sad for some reason. Most people who suffer from depression never really get cured. You can have the most amazing things happening to you and still suffer from depression. Like anxiiety once it's triggered it never really goes away, people control it through coping strategies. The problem is, there is very little known about the brain and the way it works. The main treatment for depression is medicines that alter the chemistry of the the brain.