obama vs. bush, pt II

[floridaorange]

Re: obama vs. bush, pt II

My hope is that they are both principled and pragmatic in their approach as a unified administration and that they are able to prioritize the issues, which are all connected to each other. And I believe Obama has what it takes.

[Mariner1]

Re: obama vs. bush, pt II

^Ok replace pragmatic with principled.

I think it is possible you misinterpreted my usage of the word. Especially given that "pragmatically" is used in the definition of the word "principled" here:

based on or manifesting objectively defined standards of rightness or morality; "principled pragmatism and unprincipled expediency"; "a principled person."

source: http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=principled

Now is not the time to argue for the sake of arguing imo.

all i'm saying is that there are flaws in acting pragmatically. It's not the first time i've heard someone say that we need to be more pragmatic about solving our problems.

[floridaorange]

Re: obama vs. bush, pt II

^Ok replace pragmatic with principled.

I think it is possible you misinterpreted my usage of the word. Especially given that "pragmatically" is used in the definition of the word "principled" here:

based on or manifesting objectively defined standards of rightness or morality; "principled pragmatism and unprincipled expediency"; "a principled person."

source: http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=principled

Now is not the time to argue for the sake of arguing imo.

[Mariner1]

Re: obama vs. bush, pt II

how about principled? This 'try-anything-and-hope-it-sticks approach' (ie, pragmatism) is killing us.

[floridaorange]

Re: obama vs. bush, pt II

pragmatically

I think being pragmatic is the worst way an elected leader can act right now.

What word would you replace "pragmatic" with?

[Mariner1]

Re: obama vs. bush, pt II

wat

and then?

[MJDub]

Re: obama vs. bush, pt II

this.

wat

[Mariner1]

Re: obama vs. bush, pt II

wut

So, we are all hopeful that he will be able to surround himself with a competent administration that will be willing to reach across the table and pragmatically move the ball forward on the most pressing issues facing America and the Globe one day at a time.

this.

[MJDub]

Re: obama vs. bush, pt II

pragmatically

I think being pragmatic is the worst way an elected leader can act right now.

wut

[Mariner1]

Re: obama vs. bush, pt II

pragmatically

I think being pragmatic is the worst way an elected leader can act right now.

[floridaorange]

Re: obama vs. bush, pt II

I think that everyone is pretty much agreeing here, with the exception of some minor miscommunication here and there.

I do think everyone would agree with Shpira that there are many more Americans who can relate to someone like Obama rather than G. W. Bush or McCain. In addition, there are many more humans globally who can relate with Obama, vs. Bush or McCain. And we would also all agree that the problems Obama and his advisors are facing have amounted over many years, not just the last 8. All of the issues are intertwined and you cannot actually isolate 1 or even 5 issues without affecting the others, there are completely interrelated. So, we are all hopeful that he will be able to surround himself with a competent administration that will be willing to reach across the table and pragmatically move the ball forward on the most pressing issues facing America and the Globe one day at a time.

[chloe harris]

Re: obama vs. bush, pt II

lol @ it's not big.

[Mariner1]

Re: obama vs. bush, pt II

if you want to know more read "hegemony or survival" by Noam chomsky its not big and its an easy read good introduction...a kind of an eye opener to US foreign policy if you will.

[Shpira]

Re: obama vs. bush, pt II

if you want to know more read "hegemony or survival" by Noam chomsky its not big and its an easy read good introduction...a kind of an eye opener to US foreign policy if you will.

[Mariner1]

Re: obama vs. bush, pt II

I wrote an incredibly lengthy reply to your 'interesting' comments until i came to your last line.


you're right. i should really read about politics if I'm interested in it.