Bin Laden's Pictures to be released.

[res0nat0r]

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Everything you said I disagree with to the fullest extent...
If the world functioned the way you seem to think it does ... half of the world with a PC would have navy seals dropping them in their sleep for the shit they have written or said at one point or another in their life. If I made a video claiming responsability for something...would that alone be enough for someone to come in and kill me???

lulz. i agree that you are pissed off at the fucked up wars overseas (and rightly so), but joining the conspiracy/blind rage gang doesnt help. it doesn't mean that every single thing that the west does is automatically 100% wrong, just because you are pissed off.

also i can talk as much shit as i want about how fucked the us is, and im not worried about seals coming to my door. you know why? because the president of the united states didn't just get on tv call say he is going to find my ass no matter where, when, why or how. thats how i know. if i saw that happen to me, the last fucking thing id be doing would be putting out vids pissing off the people who said they were going to fuck me up

also there was a seal on bob and tom this morning. he said it is great that all of the armchair quarterbacks are jumping on the bandwagon second guessing how the mission went down. said they dont even have the first clue how anything works, and can continue to talk shit from afar on their comfortable couches while they do nothing.

[Dhar_2]

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on a lighter note!

[bobjuice]

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I've also been waiting patiently for information on the owners of those toys in the videos.

Up to 12 children lived in the compound from what i've read this morning. How many of them were murdered i don't know.

[Shpira]

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Everything you said I disagree with to the fullest extent...
If the world functioned the way you seem to think it does ... half of the world with a PC would have navy seals dropping them in their sleep for the shit they have written or said at one point or another in their life. If I made a video claiming responsability for something...would that alone be enough for someone to come in and kill me???

I will not fear anyone...if its my time to go its my time to go...and we all go at one time or another.


As far as not trusting the Pakistani government...I suggest you read up on your history of relations between Pakistan and US to find out who has been fucking who for years.

How is it worth BILLIONS???? Are you high? The evidence of a crime is worth billions...righty ho.

this is not a war on the muslim world..

Sure as hell is beginning to look that way. . .and some of the fuckers in the Mid West would love a "crusade"

although it was the US that planned it and executed it i,m almost certain that this was a UN op not just a US op

you must have a direct line into Obamas ass...cuz I have no such info.

[thebanned1]

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So what?? Who pronounced him guilty you? Obama....CNN who? Do you believe everything you see on TV? I don't and I would have liked to hear what he had to say. How did he manage to "masterminded... the planes flying into the WTC on 9/11" How did they bypass NORAD. Don't you think finding everything out is important??? If I had family killed I think I would like to know everything...so such a thing never happens again...it makes NO sense absolutely NO sense killing the guy for reasons we are presented with. At the end of the day...they could have even sieged the building for days...and starved him out...OR a million other possibilities that do not require shooting an unarmed man. Quite honestly this is the kind of thing that people start hating the US for...going around braking laws and killing who ever they please....not much has changed with Obama in that sense either.

OH MY F'KN GOD

osama made video's claiming that he was responsible for the planning of 9/11 and in his OWN WORDS said that they had been planning it for quite sometime, even if he didnt plan it he was pretty fucking stupid to do this LOL.. these guys (al Qaeda ) aint ur average street thugs ( like mafia ) as they are not only very fucking clever but somewhat trained to a certain military spec, you dont wanna fuck around with these guys if ur just your average joe living in a town somewhere in the middle of america....trust me when i say this "FEAR THESE PEOPLE"...if i had family members who were killed in 9/11 i would see common sense and not ask for all the info because that would put me @ risk from these guys potentially kidnapping and torturing the fuck out of me to gain that info...personally i would leave that shit to the people who were able to deal with it, They couldn't siege the building for days because they obviously don't fully trust the pakistani government and had not one single bit of official permission to be in the country to execute the mission.... personally i would also like to find out how they knew that the pakistani armed forces had scrambled fighter jets ( kinda shows u the level of the mission ) as for shooting him well this kinda makes sense if u sit and think about it...time was not on their sides....45 minutes had past...they really didnt know if they had flown into an al Qaeda strong hold or how the pakistani forces would react so in fact trying to drag an unwilling man in to a helicopter in the middle of a gun fight aint really a wise thing to do plus the order was dead or alive

And you say this based on what evidence exactly?? Where is it that irrefutable piece that would push the jury beyond reasonable doubt???

this evidence would have been submitted to security services around the world a very long time ago, the chances of the press/public ever seeing this are minimal...that info is worth millions if not billions of $'s if it were to be sold to the wrong hands.

this is different from the ass backwards Americans who want to kill all Muslims...how?

this is not a war on the muslim world..

I am not entirely sure this illegal let alone that it warrants killing him.

ok i,m partially with you on this one after all they were operating in a foreign country without permission but this really wasn't a US thing as the whole world was looking for osama and i,m sure that when he was located the UN were highly suspicious to the fact that the pakistani's knew something, we'll never find that out!

Eventually yes...or he is going to pick up a gun in which case SHOOTING him would be fine. Shooting a guy several times in the head is just plane execution....and I see no basis whatsoever or authority for your countryman to behave like that.

In fact the whole world should be worried by the action the US has chosen to take...as your beloved president took a dump on international law...anyway:

although it was the US that planned it and executed it i,m almost certain that this was a UN op not just a US op

[Shpira]

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Lol

[Dhar_2]

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this is time wasting!

we want the pics of the big man!

they obviously need to employ some internet 'shopping skills to speed things up!

[Shpira]

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So what?? Who pronounced him guilty you? Obama....CNN who? Do you believe everything you see on TV? I don't and I would have liked to hear what he had to say. How did he manage to "masterminded... the planes flying into the WTC on 9/11" How did they bypass NORAD. Don't you think finding everything out is important??? If I had family killed I think I would like to know everything...so such a thing never happens again...it makes NO sense absolutely NO sense killing the guy for reasons we are presented with. At the end of the day...they could have even sieged the building for days...and starved him out...OR a million other possibilities that do not require shooting an unarmed man. Quite honestly this is the kind of thing that people start hating the US for...going around braking laws and killing who ever they please....not much has changed with Obama in that sense either.

You're talking about a guy who masterminded not only the planes flying into the WTC on 9/11, but also several other attacks, including the bombing of American embassies and the killing of U.S.

And you say this based on what evidence exactly?? Where is it that irrefutable piece that would push the jury beyond reasonable doubt???

soldiers on a naval ship and advocated fervently the killing of Westerners and any of it's allies, regardless of the status - civilian or military

this is different from the ass backwards Americans who want to kill all Muslims...how?

He hid out for 10 years and submitted tapes of his doctrine throughout the time, repeating the same message.

I am not entirely sure this illegal let alone that it warrants killing him.

ou really think he's just going to surrender, especially considering how the operation took about 40-45 minutes, along with the reports of a pretty extended battle using small arms?

Eventually yes...or he is going to pick up a gun in which case SHOOTING him would be fine. Shooting a guy several times in the head is just plane execution....and I see no basis whatsoever or authority for your countryman to behave like that.

In fact the whole world should be worried by the action the US has chosen to take...as your beloved president took a dump on international law...anyway:

[Highsteppa]

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Says who?? Where is the evidence? in fact any public evidence apart from silly videos?? Also there have been many people who were responsible for the deaths of thousands but that didn't warrant illegally invading a sovereign state to assassinate a citizen of a yet different state.

You're talking about a guy who masterminded not only the planes flying into the WTC on 9/11, but also several other attacks, including the bombing of American embassies and the killing of U.S. soldiers on a naval ship and advocated fervently the killing of Westerners and any of it's allies, regardless of the status - civilian or military. He hid out for 10 years and submitted tapes of his doctrine throughout the time, repeating the same message. You really think he's just going to surrender, especially considering how the operation took about 40-45 minutes, along with the reports of a pretty extended battle using small arms?

As mentioned before, the official story on this is going to take time. There's still tons of data to go through and to verify and corroborate. Odds are we won't see something official for some time.

[Highsteppa]

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Already posted in the bin Laden pics to be released thread, hoss.

[Shpira]

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http://www.reuters.com/subjects/bin-laden-compound

The photos, taken by a Pakistani security official who entered the compound after the early morning raid on Monday, show two men dressed in traditional Pakistani garb and one in a t-shirt, with blood streaming from their ears, noses and mouths.

The official, who wished to remain anonymous, sold the pictures to Reuters.

None of the men looked like bin Laden. U.S. President Barack Obama decided not to release photos of his body because it could have incited violence and used as an al Qaeda propaganda tool.

"I think that given the graphic nature of these photos, it would create some national security risk," Obama told the CBS programme "60 Minutes."

Based on the time-stamps on the pictures, the earliest one was dated May 2, 2:30 a.m., approximately an hour after the completion of the raid in which bin Laden was killed.

Other photos, taken hours later at between 5:21 a.m. and 6:43 a.m. show the outside of the trash-strewn compound and the wreckage of the helicopter the United States abandoned. The tail assembly is unusual, and could indicate some kind of previously unknown stealth capability.

Reuters is confident of the authenticity of the purchased images because details in the photos appear to show a wrecked helicopter from the assault, matching details from photos taken independently on Monday.

U.S. forces lost a helicopter in the raid due to a mechanical problem and later destroyed it.

The pictures are also taken in sequence and are all the same size in pixels, indicating they have not been tampered with. The time and date in the photos as recorded in the digital file's metadata match lighting conditions for the area as well as the time and date imprinted on the image itself.

The close-cropped pictures do not show any weapons on the dead men, but the photos are taken in medium close-up and often crop out the men's hands and arms.

One photo shows a computer cable and what looks like a child's plastic green and orange water pistol lying under the right shoulder of one of the dead men. A large pool of blood has formed under his head.

A second shows another man with a streak of blood running from his nose across his right cheek and a large band of blood across his chest.

A third man, in a T-shirt, is on his back in a large pool of blood which appears to be from a head wound.

U.S. acknowledgment on Tuesday that bin Laden was unarmed when shot dead had raised accusations Washington had violated international law. The exact circumstances of his death remained unclear and could yet fuel controversy, especially in the Muslim world.

Pakistan faced national embarrassment, a leading Islamabad newspaper said, in explaining how the world's most-wanted man was able to live for years in the military garrison town of Abbottabad, just north of the capital.

Pakistan blamed worldwide intelligence lapses for a failure to detect bin Laden, while Washington worked to establish whether its ally had sheltered the al Qaeda leader, which Islamabad vehemently denies.

[Shpira]

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his son was killed i know that much but ur right i would also like to know about what they did with the other people that were in the building @ the time and were not killed...this is something the news hasn't touched on yet... i dont know if there would of been room to take prisoners because obviously getting them out would of been a problem

Its worse than that...the blessed "independent" media has not managed to find a single shred of information that isn't "a reliable source from the government"....this is in my eyes means that we know nothing. We might know what DIDN'T happen...and thats about it. They haven't bothered interviewing the neighbours...or doing any investigation of their own whatsoever. Investigative journalism is dead when it comes to international relations.

[Shpira]

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He didn't fucking surrender and he's responsible for thousands of deaths. It's not like he gets multiple chances to give himself up.

Says who?? Where is the evidence? in fact any public evidence apart from silly videos?? Also there have been many people who were responsible for the deaths of thousands but that didn't warrant illegally invading a sovereign state to assassinate a citizen of a yet different state.

[res0nat0r]

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Notice all of these mixups you think are coverups didn't come from his mouf

[runningman]

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I just don't always give the government the benefit of the doubt like you Reso that's all.

With Cameras on their heads and sound being recorded (and whatever other high tech gadget the US Military has, Satellite images etc.) am I supposed to believe that the President didn't understand everything that just happened right after it happened?