John Digweed - Live in Cordoba

[tribalcho]

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Well i think i am NOT the only one with that kind of opinion : P

[go0gle]

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Cordoba release is BAD..Face it..

And.. I assume we should take your opinion as a universal law ? Nah.. I actually really like CD2! Its great for running.. you should try it!

As far as paying for it.. I mean, we get plenty of free music already, its ok to give something in return every once in a while, no?

[jay813]

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I seem to remember the same being said about Northern Exposure when it was released. Some of the best CD's I own didn't do anything for me the first few times I listened to them. Some took months and even years before I could fully appreciate them.

you mean it takes digweed a few years to find his groove?

[Hydrosonic]

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The part of Digweeds sets I really enjoy are the early segments with the house and tech elements where he moves the sound around and plays different music, driving things up a little and taking it back down, throwing in the unexpected. This is the sort of thing he does at fabric and in the longer sets.

This ^. First hour of his sets are usually full of intrigue...

Incidentally I'm rather warming to CD 2! Will have to spend a pleasant evening playing the 2 CDs back-to-back.

[simonr]

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Come on..SimonR and Homegrove..We all know you are the biggest fans of Diggers on here..We all are his fans..Man is a legend and that's why people's expectations are so high and there is disappointment because the simple truth is that this Cordoba release is BAD..Face it..Digweed's decision to release a live recording (and its not his best one!) as a mixed CD was wrong....nothing more

True with the big fan part .. but the non-music comments do my nut in.

The part of Digweeds sets I really enjoy are the early segments with the house and tech elements where he moves the sound around and plays different music, driving things up a little and taking it back down, throwing in the unexpected. This is the sort of thing he does at fabric and in the longer sets.

Some people prefer the latter parts, where its banged out more .. for home listening/commuting I prefer something with the other elements, so Córdoba suits me fine .. if I want a banging set or one back to the prog days my drive has plenty of them.

I saw a comment the other day on Bedrock saying its not the Digweed they remembered of the 90's !! The 90's was 13 years ago ... music and artists move on.

Many people actually think this is v good (there's just the same dissenting voices here) ... for me the idea is a great one ... its different, nothing wrong with that.

Only seen one review .. but that seems positive:

Dance music reviews | Spadang: John Digweed, Live In Cordoba review

Nice addition to my collection, v nice little package, some excellent music ... and it'll sound great in years to come. Well worth the price of 2.5 pints.

[tribalcho]

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I seem to remember the same being said about Northern Exposure when it was released. Some of the best CD's I own didn't do anything for me the first few times I listened to them. Some took months and even years before I could fully appreciate them.

Well chunky,lets hope you are right..only the time will tell...I like to be honest CD 1,but dont find it as something really impressive..CD 2 is what disappointed me most..the only track i liked is Helios by Oliver Lieb,but thats because i love almost everything under the name Lieb (one of my old trance heroes)..

[chunky]

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I've always found that the CD's that have a big impact when they're released are usually the one's that people tire of really quickly.

[chunky]

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the simple truth is that this Cordoba release is BAD..Face it..Digweed's decision to release a live recording (and its not his best one!) as a mixed CD was wrong....nothing more

I seem to remember the same being said about Northern Exposure when it was released. Some of the best CD's I own didn't do anything for me the first few times I listened to them. Some took months and even years before I could fully appreciate them.

[tribalcho]

Re: John Digweed - Live in Cordoba

Come on..SimonR and Homegrove..We all know you are the biggest fans of Diggers on here..We all are his fans..Man is a legend and that's why people's expectations are so high and there is disappointment because the simple truth is that this Cordoba release is BAD..Face it..Digweed's decision to release a live recording (and its not his best one!) as a mixed CD was wrong....nothing more

[simonr]

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Plus kudos to Chunky ... who buys the old cassettes off e-bay, spends his own time ripping it and pays for the sites he uploads and shares streams/downloads from for the benefit of everyone. In terms of unpaid time and running costs this probably amounts to a few £££s over a year.

[simonr]

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I assume the release of the CD is about the Bedrock label, keeping a profile for releasing music and promoting new artists/music (CD3).

If you honestly think that much money is made out of this you are all well out of touch - all artists will be getting paid, and having your track on a third unmixed CD should also result in more money.

Selling 3 x CDs at £10.99 is hardly the biggest money maker. Do you really think running a label a luctrative these days - for every track sold there must be a ton of illegal downloads.

As for whinging about things not being free ... years ago, bar the Essential mixes, you all had to pay for you music !!

Around the time of this release John's fans got a WHP mix, a Timewarp Mix and an [ms] exclusive Moonpark set : i.e. 5 hours of free live music.

This is the sad state of affairs we've reached in terms of an unwillingess to pay towards the artists/labels you like ... at some point the producers will end up packing it all in through a lack of livelihood ... then everyone will moan about a lack of quality music out there.

There seems a distinct lack of support for things these days, which annoys the hell out of me and (frankly) makes me embarassed at where the scene has come to.

[chunky]

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years ago he used to release full and up-to-date sets, now he charges for mediocre recent live mixes and airs (if airs...) some 2-years expired gigs.

When was that? I don't remember him releasing any sets himself other than his radio mixes. Some club promotors recorded some of his sets and shared them on the Internet a few years later but that about it.

[foreks]

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I see more and more people are getting disappointed with Cordoba live mix on sale. John have recently said he charges only for the travel, hi is djing is for free. He should have said he's playing a live gig for free but charges for the recording... I don't get it - years ago he used to release full and up-to-date sets, now he charges for mediocre recent live mixes and airs (if airs...) some 2-years expired gigs.

[chunky]

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Is Diggers really that hard up for cash????

He played the gig and got paid well for it, he obviously had one hell of a night, the night was was so good that wanted to share the whole experience with like minded people.

Except you have to pay for it.

When I heard about the release and the story behind it, the very first thing that came mind was that is was a cash grab, plain and simple. Good for Digweed and if that's the way he want to do business the so be it. Who am I/we to tell him otherwise?

And for those who don't see it that way or don't mind, then I really do hope that the purchase was worth it for you.

I see where you are coming from to a point, but if a DJ gives out a live set for free the artists featured on the mix haven't been paid or asked their permission to have their tracks given away. Some might call it exposure others theft.

At the end of the day it doesn't,t mater if its recorded live or not, just whether its good or not.

[trick12]

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^ yeah but digweed didnt put out a mix cd, he put out a live set like other dj's do but the difference is that it wasnt free, and even tho it was released for a price, it wasnt the expected quality...ive personally travelled and put lots of money just to go see digweed live many times, so its not the money its what we get for it, again i said ill be willing to pay even $100 for a good 3-4 hrs from vagabond or some banger set...but give me that oooof moment is all im asking for, esp when were talking abt diggs here which we all know him for these moments and not the smooth stuff, so give us that and not the first 2hrs

and this is not complaining eventho anyone is allowed to complain esp when ur paying, dosent mean that u liked it then everyone else shud or just not say anything about it if they didnt....many of the people "complaining" are some of the most digweed fans ive seen sooo good for u for being too nice

if digweed had put out a well thought mix cd i think was gonna be much better than this and much worth than the first 2hrs of a set, he could have left that for transitions, and the free live sets lately on transitions has beeeen soo much better than this