Building Doesn't Fall by Fire???

[audrey_w]

Re: Building Doesn't Fall by Fire???

Ok lets do your tin pot experiment. You get yourself a Heinz Beans can, empty it, put a dent in one side, then using ur thumbs at the bottom and index finger at the top and try to squash it. Upload it on youtube and post it here in the next 12 hours and I will donate £50 through the MS donate tab.

If the top and bottom of the tin come together in uniform fashion, ie without mis-shaping to one side, then i'll back the above with £100

[thebanned1]

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I find the red bull can analogy absurd, the only way you can squeeze a can in such a way is with your thumb AND finger ie, you are applying pressure from both sides simultaneously. As you say the building was damaged at one side, though i'd dispute the structure of the building was damaged at all. For the tin can theory to hold water you'd have to "squeeze" it with the end of one finger from one side, and not simultaneously use your thumb. Try that.

this is my point exactly... and when u damage the can on one side the can when squeezed falls in on itself from the top... honestly try it

[thebanned1]

Re: Building Doesn't Fall by Fire???

Ok lets do your tin pot experiment. You get yourself a Heinz Beans can, empty it, put a dent in one side, then using ur thumbs at the bottom and index finger at the top and try to squash it. Upload it on youtube and post it here in the next 12 hours and I will donate £50 through the MS donate tab. If however you cant you should agree to pack up your shit and go away, not just to day forever. LOL

my thumb and fingers can't make thousands of tons of pressure created by tons and tons of steel and concrete... you obviously missed the point

[Barn Dog]

Re: Building Doesn't Fall by Fire???

you're missing the point... its a solid structure that has had its structure rigidity compromised at the side

Ok lets do your tin pot experiment. You get yourself a Heinz Beans can, empty it, put a dent in one side, then using ur thumbs at the bottom and index finger at the top and try to squash it. Upload it on youtube and post it here in the next 12 hours and I will donate £50 through the MS donate tab. If however you cant you should agree to pack up your shit and go away, not just to day forever. LOL

[audrey_w]

Re: Building Doesn't Fall by Fire???

I find the red bull can analogy absurd, the only way you can squeeze a can in such a way is with your thumb AND finger ie, you are applying pressure from both sides simultaneously. As you say the building was damaged at one side, though i'd dispute the structure of the building was damaged at all. For the tin can theory to hold water you'd have to "squeeze" it with the end of one finger from one side, and not simultaneously use your thumb. Try that.

[Barn Dog]

Re: Building Doesn't Fall by Fire???

no i,m not but the point is that is stainless steel which is harder than normal steel and to twist it between them they are putting well below a quarter of a ton in pressure between them... its quite a thick piece as well


my point was that just how pliable steel becomes when it gets heated and the weight it is bearing is the pressure... of course it would buckle.... oh and i just know ur gonna come back with well buildings of a similar nature have burned and not fallen... probably because those buildings were made recently with higher grade steel

Actually the building in the Madrid fire was built in 1976, burned for 2 days, no hint of a wibbly wobbly

[thebanned1]

Re: Building Doesn't Fall by Fire???

Only your can of Red Bull is made of Alluminum and completely hollow, put some steel rod's inside it and you're back where you started.

Maybe you should get your meccarno set out build a 10 x 10 structure bolted together and add some cross frames and strengthening brackets and take a blow touch to it LOL

And your can of Red Bull won't fall into its foot print either.

you're missing the point... its a solid structure that has had its structure rigidity compromised at the side

[thebanned1]

Re: Building Doesn't Fall by Fire???

are you really tring to say that the firnace they used to heat that steel was burning at the same temperature as office furniture LOL

no i,m not but the point is that is stainless steel which is harder than normal steel and to twist it between them they are putting well below a quarter of a ton in pressure between them... its quite a thick piece as well


my point was that just how pliable steel becomes when it gets heated and the weight it is bearing is the pressure... of course it would buckle.... oh and i just know ur gonna come back with well buildings of a similar nature have burned and not fallen... probably because those buildings were made recently with higher grade steel

[Barn Dog]

Re: Building Doesn't Fall by Fire???

are you really tring to say that the firnace they used to heat that steel was burning at the same temperature as office furniture LOL

[Barn Dog]

Re: Building Doesn't Fall by Fire???

a simple experiment.... take a can of red bull ( empty ), hold it with both hand using ur thumbs at the bottom and index finger at the top and try to squash it... i,m guessing u can't... but now slightly squash in the side of the can and do the same as u did before.... the whole structure collapses very easily.... this is how the twin towers came down

Only your can of Red Bull is made of Alluminum and completely hollow, put some steel rod's inside it and you're back where you started.

Maybe you should get your meccarno set out build a 10 x 10 structure bolted together and add some cross frames and strengthening brackets and take a blow touch to it LOL

And your can of Red Bull won't fall into its foot print either.

[floridaorange]

Re: Building Doesn't Fall by Fire???

^how pikey of you rezo !

[res0nat0r]

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NSA

[floridaorange]

Re: Building Doesn't Fall by Fire???

a simple experiment.... take a can of red bull ( empty ), hold it with both hand using ur thumbs at the bottom and index finger at the top and try to squash it... i,m guessing u can't... but now slightly squash in the side of the can and do the same as u did before.... the whole structure collapses very easily.... this is how the twin towers came down

Bing - fucking - OOOOOOOOOO

[thebanned1]

Re: Building Doesn't Fall by Fire???

[thebanned1]

Re: Building Doesn't Fall by Fire???

p.s. i mentioned the word twist for one reason not because i think the beams twisted but because i know that as soon as u apply a certain amount of heat to steel it becomes very very pliable and weak