support the troops

[hambino21]

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And right back at you !!

Err Osama is a Saudi! Isn't that what Dig72 said. ??

Yes your right. He was also kicked out of Saudi arabia and resided in Afghanistan using the Taliban as his Army. So whats your point?

[hambino21]

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Where did you get the information that he claimed it. Because the only evidence I've seen is some very suspect video footage released in December 2001. Didn't the Afghans around that time say they would turn him over when some evidence was released. Also the American government said shortly after 9/11 that they would produce the evidence shortly. This also hasn't materialised. I mite be wrong on this so could some please point me in the direction of the evidence. I'm sorry if anyone finds this offensive but there's a lot of unanswered question's that the American Government should be able to answer easily but haven't. There is a serious lack of transparency

I agree with you man. There is a shitload I don't agree with that the American government has done, trust me. I am also not a supporter of Bush. I'll also admit that i don't have this proof on my thumbdrive that shows the video. Can you prove that the video was totally suspect?

[chunky]

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It was a mixture of nationalities, but who claimed it??? That would be Osama.

Where did you get the information that he claimed it. Because the only evidence I've seen is some very suspect video footage released in December 2001. Didn't the Afghans around that time say they would turn him over when some evidence was released. Also the American government said shortly after 9/11 that they would produce the evidence shortly. This also hasn't materialised. I mite be wrong on this so could some please point me in the direction of the evidence. I'm sorry if anyone finds this offensive but there's a lot of unanswered question's that the American Government should be able to answer easily but haven't. There is a serious lack of transparency

[DIDI]

Re: support the troops

Way to spin what I said to fit your agenda CNN

And right back at you !!

Err Osama is a Saudi! Isn't that what Dig72 said. ??

[hambino21]

Re: support the troops

I am sorry but This is a pile of shit.
There is no way to call it but that.
You and your friends are not fighting for me...
If I had a choice you would not be there. That is pure and outer bullshit,,,you are not fighting for my freedoms or my rights. Furthermore, I would never go to war even if there was conscription - I would just move somewhere like Switzerland.

Really Switzerland huh? A country with an obligatory military service. hmm. you might have been better off in the states where the military is made up of VOLUNTEERS!

[hambino21]

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Oh really?

Trying to wipe out the Taliban is Genocide.

Are you seriously a Taliban sympathizer????? Holy crap. They are not a raceof people. Well you can say what you're saying because you don't have religious extremists mandating everything you're doing, or cutting off your limbs or clits. You also aren't deprived the ability to think for yourself. If you had to live in this country under their rule for a week you would change your tune with the quickness. But as long as you're safe and sound in your free country, you can make statements like that.

[hambino21]

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Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't it Saudis that flew those planes into the buildings?

It was a mixture of nationalities, but who claimed it??? That would be Osama.

[hambino21]

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Not question?? You are kidding aren't you. ? Unfortunately the statistics don't match your rhetoric. Your history has allowed you to get the best from the military , this doesn't apply across the board. Btw the crazy was your word I don't think the mention it in statistics.
The bolded bit is pure BS propaganda.

Once again I restate myself. everyone has a right to ask what a person does in the military, or what the miltary's reason for doing things are. I was saying for the third time....Why a person joined the military is personal decision. The reason I stated this is mentioned before in this thread, some person who seems to have the whole world figure out basicall said you have to be poor, stupid ,or crazy to join the military, and i stated what I stated to say that whatever the reason that person joined is a personal choice. I don't ask you why you haven't joined the military. I don't think you're a coward for doing so. Its your choice, and I don't give a shit. You pacifists are so quick to pick a fight its rediculous. Ironic even.
It also seems like you read the "propoganda" portion of what i said wrong also. I wasn't necessarilly saying that what has been done in Iraq or Afghanistan so far is directly proportional to you're ability to protest,disagree etc etc. the point I was making is that because these servicemembers volunteer for service, the average american can do these things they want to do without fearing a draft of some sort. thats what i said. Way to spin what I said to fit your agenda CNN

[DIDI]

Re: support the troops

I am sorry but This is a pile of shit.
There is no way to call it but that.
You and your friends are not fighting for me...
If I had a choice you would not be there. That is pure and outer bullshit,,,you are not fighting for my freedoms or my rights. Furthermore, I would never go to war even if there was conscription - I would just move somewhere like Switzerland.
These ideas of heroism (in my opinion) are something you and your fellow soldiers have been spoon fed to psych you guys up and make you feel all tingly inside.
I have nothing against you and I wish for you all the best i.e. to survive and come home (just as I wish for everyone fighting on both sides) so please don't serve me that crap about you doing your part or my part or whose ever part because in my eyes you and every other soldier on both sides are puppets on a string. Ever since the dawn of time nation states have been nothing more than figments of imagination...a way for the government to control people for the purpose of taxation and army.
Call me a hippie an anarchist or whatever you will but I do not feel allied to any nation whatsoever.

Furthermore when governments are completely open about the way they operate and they can show me a clear threat the Afghanistan poses to me and my way of life I will agree with all you said. Until then they can fuck right off.

p.s. as much as they want you to believe it, you are not fighting against the third reich

Great post!

[DIDI]

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When it comes to the Soldier, Airman, Sailor, and Marine, the least you can do is to not question why they do what they do. And don't insult them by saying that they must be poor, uneducated, or crazy for serving their country. Thats just rediculous! It is something they decided to do. And yes some were talked into it and it might not have been the best idea for them, but they are the ones that have to deal with this decision, not you. Plus when you feel like protesting certain decisions, disagreeing with officials outloud, booming whatever music you want riding around in your ride, staying up all night for a 10 hr Danny Howells show, eating at a twenty four hour restaraunt, etc, etc, just remember that person you think is poor, crazy, ignorant etc, is out on a patrol somewhere in BFE in full battle rattle so you can do all those things mentioned above with out having to think twice. On top of that , that poor, ignorant crazy person, vollunteered for their position so you don't have to do it.

Not question?? You are kidding aren't you. ? Unfortunately the statistics don't match your rhetoric. Your history has allowed you to get the best from the military , this doesn't apply across the board. Btw the crazy was your word I don't think the mention it in statistics.
The bolded bit is pure BS propaganda.

[Jenks]

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when i'm looking for support for my soldier, i go straight for the boxer briefs.

[dig72]

Re: support the troops

And if you don't think places like Afghanistan don't pose a threat to your life than you must have been asleep on Sept 11.

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't it Saudis that flew those planes into the buildings?

[dig72]

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Last tiem I checked there wasn't a genocide being commited by the coalition here in Afghanistan

Oh really?

Trying to wipe out the Taliban is Genocide.

[hambino21]

Re: support the troops

when reporters heads are chopped off on tv i think the geneva convention is slightly compromised...

Just a bit. Thats what I am talking about.

[hambino21]

Re: support the troops

I am sorry but This is a pile of shit.
There is no way to call it but that.
You and your friends are not fighting for me...
If I had a choice you would not be there. That is pure and outer bullshit,,,you are not fighting for my freedoms or my rights. Furthermore, I would never go to war even if there was conscription - I would just move somewhere like Switzerland.
These ideas of heroism (in my opinion) are something you and your fellow soldiers have been spoon fed to psych you guys up and make you feel all tingly inside.
I have nothing against you and I wish for you all the best i.e. to survive and come home (just as I wish for everyone fighting on both sides) so please don't serve me that crap about you doing your part or my part or whose ever part because in my eyes you and every other soldier on both sides are puppets on a string. Ever since the dawn of time nation states have been nothing more than figments of imagination...a way for the government to control people for the purpose of taxation and army.
Call me a hippie an anarchist or whatever you will but I do not feel allied to any nation whatsoever.

Furthermore when governments are completely open about the way they operate and they can show me a clear threat the Afghanistan poses to me and my way of life I will agree with all you said. Until then they can fuck right off.

p.s. as much as they want you to believe it, you are not fighting against the third reich

Noone is feeding you anything man. I don't get told this by my command or whatever. We aren't brain washed. ( well at least not the Airforce, Army, and Navy)Beleive what you want man, thats your right. And if you don't think places like Afghanistan don't pose a threat to your life than you must have been asleep on Sept 11 . Plus I haven't mentioned anything about Heroism. I don't seek gratitude like mentioned by someone else in this thead. I won't lose sleep if you disagree with me. trust me. And if you want to got to Switzerland when the shit hits the fan, go ahead man. No one would spend a nano second stopping you. good luck on making aliving there coming straight form America. You think shits expensive in the states. I also understand that what I am doing here in Afghanistan might not directly affect YOU at this point, but as I mention earlier, if certain major countries decide they want to get rid of us in the future, we would have a strategic advantage by being here. And if this was to happen all these "brainwashed idiots" as you like to refer to them as that voluteer for service would be defending our country while you flee to Switzerland . Just look at the big picture for once.