100,000 civilians killed in Iraq?

[Yao]

Re: 100,000 civilians killed in Iraq?

:ROFLMAO:


Don't let Pickles discourage you srbbnd...

[picklemonkey]

-11 for digging up 1-yr-old threads

[srbbnd]

Re: 100,000 civilians killed in Iraq?

"Religion and money are the root of all evil, and cause of almost all wars."

Also because of George Bush. Can't stand that bastard.

Sean

[Yao]

Aren't we already, except for the 'pal' part....how's about 'Penemies' ?

[runningman]

^^ ya thanks guys..

You had this one coming bro...

I just wanted to be a pen pal with you two..

[Yao]

^^ ya thanks guys..

You had this one coming bro...

[runningman]

^^ ya thanks guys..

[Yao]

The same to you man, I really enjoy these discussions/conversations. We may get emotional sometimes, but don't we all? And given the subjects it's really not surprising...

Thnx, and I hope we can continue this.

[gokada]

Re: 100,000 civilians killed in Iraq?

Yao, all I want to say is that it's actually nice to have an intelligent exchange with someone instead of name calling and put downs...thank you...

[LobsterClan]

Do you actually read the links you supply.

Dr Les Roberts, who led the study, said: "Making conservative assumptions we think that about 100,000 excess deaths, or more, have happened since the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

The key word, in case you missed it is assumption. In the same article it quotes four other organisations who have also looked into this issue.

Iraq Body Count: 14-16,000
Brookings Inst: 10-27,000
UK foreign secretary: >10,000
People's Kifah >37,000

Even taking the highest estimated figure here, the Lancet has come up with a total in excess of some 63,000 people more then all other estimates.

The thing about this war lobster is that there is no way for certain to tell how many people have died, but we have to be guided by those organisations that try and count the bodies. In that case i would put it to you, that seeing as we are working on estimates only, then we would probably have to agree a figure somewhere in between those that have been suggested.

A figure that is certainly far less then 100,000.

Of course I read the links. Also, of course there is no way to tell for sure how many civilians have been killed. In case you hadn't noticed the opening sentence of the article reads: "Poor planning, air strikes by coalition forces and a "climate of violence" have led to more than 100,000 extra deaths in Iraq, scientists claim."

And I was replying to someone who said "Anyone who believes that 100,000 deaths have been recorded is out of their mind. This number has been rebutted a number of times by outside groups. What a crock."

You'll notice the person who made that quote has been conspicuously absent since making that remark.

[Yao]

Which makes the 100,000 not such a wild guess after all, but yes, it is still an estimated number.

[mixu]

The Iraq Body Count's response is 'interesting'... :?

[davetlv]

Instead of making stupid claims, why don't you back this up with some facts. Here are some to totally rebut your point of view: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/3962969.stm

Do you actually read the links you supply.

Dr Les Roberts, who led the study, said: "Making conservative assumptions we think that about 100,000 excess deaths, or more, have happened since the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

The key word, in case you missed it is assumption. In the same article it quotes four other organisations who have also looked into this issue.

Iraq Body Count: 14-16,000
Brookings Inst: 10-27,000
UK foreign secretary: >10,000
People's Kifah >37,000

Even taking the highest estimated figure here, the Lancet has come up with a total in excess of some 63,000 people more then all other estimates.

The thing about this war lobster is that there is no way for certain to tell how many people have died, but we have to be guided by those organisations that try and count the bodies. In that case i would put it to you, that seeing as we are working on estimates only, then we would probably have to agree a figure somewhere in between those that have been suggested.

A figure that is certainly far less then 100,000.

[LobsterClan]

Anyone who believes that 100,000 deaths have been recorded is out of their mind. This number has been rebutted a number of times by outside groups. What a crock.

Instead of making stupid claims, why don't you back this up with some facts. Here are some to totally rebut your point of view: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/3962969.stm

[runningman]

Re: 100,000 civilians killed in Iraq?

runningman, i dont know you, but i am already afraid of you....

and i disagree with some of the "extremist" ideas of the religion, but i realize that we cant go on a holy war here.

wow......cancer......wow.......

i don't mean that all muslims are cancer.. i just said they spread like cancer.. they are doubling every year.. like cancer.. I don't want a holy war either but it might not be my decision.. If the USA goes into Iran i fear for what will happen.. I am just preparing for the worst.. I don't want every muslim to die.. That sounds crazy like crazy hitler talk.. I just want the muslim clerics to come out and condemn Osama and take some responsibility for there religion and how people are thinking about Jihad.. I want to see these bastards on TV every day asking Osama on CNN , Al-Jazeera, NBC i don't care to turn themselves in.. but i don't and that is why i call them bastards.. til then i can't respect there religion..